anybody at all considering cloning a Hellcat?

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  1. redkey

    redkey Senior Hellcat Member

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    cis it financially feasible to clone a Hellcat?

    so this would seem to have two approach options. one would be if you were skilled enough to do the lion's share of the work yourself and/or with skilled buddies and save a large amount on labor costs. and two, if you had to hire somebody else for pretty much everything and eat the entire labor fee.

    I understand this is potentially going to have a wide margin depending on cost of parts and labor due to differences in quality among components and technicians....but generally, would it unavoidably be so expensive that it'd be ridiculous to attempt, or is it within reason, +/- $5,000 without ending up with a Frankencat.

    I know that on Mustang forums, the topic was sometimes brought up regarding the GT500 and although the '13 and '14 GT 5.0 could be gotten new for just a pube under $30K at the end-of-year closeouts, and a Whipple could do wonders, the Getrag tranny was the big obstacle. is there a likewise weak link with a Chally clone even apart from the costs?

    whadya think?
     
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    Tspoon VIP Hellcat Member

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    Even if you did clone one, would would never recoupe your money
    thrown at the project. Save yourself the misery and money
    and just buy a True Hellcat.

    You could always go for a twin turbo Lingenfelter for 70k
    and you furnish the car.

    Just my 2 cents worth.
     
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  3. redkey

    redkey Senior Hellcat Member

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    yeh, about 20 minutes after I posted this I realized how easily it could become nothing more than a money pit.
     
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    Tammie SRT Hellcat Moderator Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

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    I was looking at supercharging my Charger and it would have cost me way more to do that and even have something substantially close to the durability and front to back strength the Hellcat has. It would be easier to do that with a Mustang from what I have read because they don't put the extra time and effort Into reinforcing the engine, transmission and everything else involved with this much horsepower. I know this has been posted, but it begs repeating. This is my new favorite article about the Hellcat. We Take A Hard Look At Dodge s Paradigm-Shifting 707hp Hellcat Hemi
     
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    paul suloff Silver Member

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    I was considering a clone of the Drag Pak Challenger for the street. Getting a salvage 6 cyl Challenger and Viper V10. After doing the math and seeing the cost plus the weight of the car would still be 3800#, it didn't make sense. Then the Hellcat came out and that killed the idea for good. Same cost and performance potential.
     
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    Paladin06 Have Guns Will Travel Staff Member Hellcat Car Club Gold Supporting Member

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    Never saw this article. Thanks for sharing.
     
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    Carnage SRT Hellcat Supercharged Moderator Staff Member Hellcat Car Club Gold Supporting Member HCC Charter Member

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    well my .02 is this: My Super Bee if I wanted it to beat the hellcat, the local Supercharger installer shop was gonna charge $36k to do it. This includes reforging everything inside the engine and a whole new reforged engine block and the WHOLE 9 million yard to get it to run safely and satisfactorily last a long time and get about 800HP - 1200HP was the max. Considering the Supercharger was offered with only a 1 year very limited warranty, it is possible this whole kit could very well blow out at some point in the future. Then we'd end up with a car that looks pretty but can't be driven anymore.

    Buy a true hellcat is what I'd go for.
     
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    dasCat SRT Hellcat Admin

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    One word.. Warranty! That's worth the extra alone! Not to mention it would be much easier to sell a hellcat then a project car. I've learned that lesson!
     
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  9. Tammie

    Tammie SRT Hellcat Moderator Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

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    TRUE THAT! If I would have supercharged my Charger the only market I have is a private sell for cash. Not a financiable car...I never would have been able to get my Hellbaby then.o_O
     
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    Carnage SRT Hellcat Supercharged Moderator Staff Member Hellcat Car Club Gold Supporting Member HCC Charter Member

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    true that! oh wait Tammie already said it. :D
     
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    Carnage SRT Hellcat Supercharged Moderator Staff Member Hellcat Car Club Gold Supporting Member HCC Charter Member

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    copy cat :p
     
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    70Cuda Yep, its got a HEMI

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    Only way to clone a Hellcat would be to find a Hellcat that got hit from behind and you could use the engine and hood to put on a STR8 Challenger.

    Just cause you put an aftermarket supercharger on a Challenger does not make it a Hellcat even if you add the emblem.

    If Dodge would sell you the Hellcat "crate" engine might be interesting. But would probably cost way more than just getting a Hellcat to begin with.
     
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  13. Tammie

    Tammie SRT Hellcat Moderator Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

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    LMAO!!! ;)
     
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    70Cuda Yep, its got a HEMI

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    Yep front end cold air inlet, facia, but the Brakes are already upgraded on an SRT8
    I think the fuel line is also bigger on the Hellcat plus the 6M has a cooler on it.
    Like I said a Hit from behind totaled Hellcat would get you close. Problem is how much is a SRT8 then How much will you pay for a "wrecked" Hellcat? Add Labor! You would have a $120,000 clone Like Tammie said its not financeable for a loan. So it would be rare.
     
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  15. 70Cuda

    70Cuda Yep, its got a HEMI

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    Well the only thing that is for certain going to get "cloned" is the satin black hood option.
     
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