[bolivarshagnasty]

My current guess is less than 6000 Challenger Hellcats. Early on, we had optimistic predictions of 50-60 per day and as many as 10 k capability. Not going to happen going down the same line that is already maxxed out.

 

[F6F]

Sorry, I'm not to good with those foreign ladies. Their whine is is a bit high for me, and since I don't understand them I always assume they are cussin at me.

Diversity is a good thing sir

 

[F6F]

OK....with the new allocation process if you read it is as follows.
If a dealer has a Hellcat on the lot no more allocations.
If a dealer has a Hellcat in D1 or better no more allocations.
So if you are at a dealer and they a have a Hellcat D1 or better and you are next in line you will not get a car until the one in front of you gets delivered. Then the following month you get yours. So if you are at a Dealer that has 50 people in front of you, you have one long wait. It is going to be roughly 3 months between Hellcats at Dealers........ They are pushing orders that were 2/6 projected to 3/2 and still not firm. Mine included, they can't get built what they have VIN's for so who really thinks they are going to produce 7000 or better Challengers when there is Charger's in the mix.

No one knows if this is true. Everybody is guessing, There is no message or communication from Dodge that tells the public about a "new" allocation system or improved allocation system.

 

[MrBigKid]

Diversity is a good thing sir

Oh I definitely agree. I love to look on from a distance, unless I've had to much high test.
Then it usually ends in horns, scratchs, and bills. ..

 

[F6F]

Oh I definitely agree. I love to look on from a distance, unless I've had to much high test.
Then it usually ends in horns, scratchs, and bills. ..

Just get a translation app, I do that when I go to Germany or Norway

 

[Carnage]

Well my dealership had 4 hellcats come and go for January 2015 and Zero for February 2015.

Don't ask how or why, my sales rep was surprised too.

 

[CivilEngineer42]

No one knows if this is true. Everybody is guessing, There is no message or communication from Dodge that tells the public about a "new" allocation system or improved allocation system.

My Dealer here already got notice from Chrysler regarding the new process. And it was verbatim of what RS posted.......

 

[CivilEngineer42]

I think you have just answered my question on the new thread I started... I went to D1 on 1/24 and was 2/13 build date and that didn't happen we thought because of parts issues. They said 3/2 last week, but RS still does not see firm schedule. Based on what you said does that mean could even be April/May now or over-reacting???

Not sure......in the exact same situation as you. Went D1 1/16 and scheduled for 2/6. Never got built talked to SRT got moved to 3/2 projected.......and still not a firm schedule, so who knows when it's going to get built........my guess is 12 to 16 weeks......

 

[rayzazoo]

Just to tidy up the previous post:

Definitions:
sold order - indicated by 1- sold order on the purchase order
stock order - indicated by 4- dealer order on the purchase order

1 allocation per dealer process:
Dealer A - 7 sold orders (sells 100 Dodge cars in last 90 days)
Dealer B - 2 sold orders (sells 90 Dodge cars in last 90 days), 1 dealer order
Dealer C - 3 sold orders (sells 120 Dodge cars in last 90 days)

March - C, A, B built (3 allocations available for the month)
April - C, A, B built (3 allocations available for the month)
May - C, A, (3 allocations available for the month; 1 reallocation to C)
June - A x3 built (3 allocations available for the month)
July - B dealer order built.

If you are #1 or the dealer's next order, you are likely going to be next for March allocation being a sold order. From there, if you are further down the line, it would be a matter of counting the months from April, May, June, July, and August; September being the start of the 2016 model year. Using the example above, dealership A would only get 6 orders fulfilled.

Monthly allocation rebalance:
However, the other dealerships with large amounts of sold orders have the potential to receive another allocation of more than 1 (part of what Tim mentioned with relooking allocation each month), once other dealership orders are fulfilled or are unused for various reasons such as:

- with 2300+ dealerships, not every dealership will receive an allocation because of having a non-sold Hellcat in stock, hellcat sitting on lot or having a current dealer order in the system (emphasis on non-sold)
- not every dealership will have a sold customer order to place in the system
- even if a dealer has no customer orders and places a dealer order, it will be placed behind all sold orders in priority

With the monthly allocation rebalance, and based on what ResumeSpeed has posted earlier about allocation, prioritization of any available, unused allocation would get prioritized based on a dealership's last 90-days of sales.

For example:

1-per March allocation 5 Hellcats:
Dealer A - 7 sold orders (sells 100 Dodge cars in last 90 days)
Dealer B - 2 sold orders (sells 90 Dodge cars in last 90 days)
Dealer C - 3 sold orders (sells 120 Dodge cars in last 90 days)
Dealer A, B, C all get 1 built.

Rebalance March of 2 Hellcats:
Dealer A, C get an additional 1 built due to last 90 day of sales and allocation rebalance.



Reference:
ResumeSpeed's February allocation response:

The following dealers will NOT receive a Hellcat allocation this month: (Note: "Hellcat" = Challenger or Charger)
1. Dealers who have a non-sold Hellcat in stock
2. Dealers who have a non-sold Hellcat in any status from C to KZ
3. Dealers who had a non-sold Hellcat in stock for more than 5 days in January

Dealers who can say NO to all of the above are eligible to receive ONE allocation per month of either a Challenger or Charger Hellcat

The following criteria will be used to assign allocations:
1. Dealers ranked by total Dodge sales (past 90 days)
2. Dealers with sold orders will be prioritized above dealers with only stock orders
3. Available SRT Hellcat production for the period to be awarded, one-per-dealer, in priority order
4. Sold orders will be validated prior to scheduling

 

[MrBigKid]

Just get a translation app, I do that when I go to Germany or Norway

Germany? Norway?
I thought you were talking about foreign places like California, New Jershey, or Canada...

 

[Cat-Man-Do]

Not sure......in the exact same situation as you. Went D1 1/16 and scheduled for 2/6. Never got built talked to SRT got moved to 3/2 projected.......and still not a firm schedule, so who knows when it's going to get built........my guess is 12 to 16 weeks......

that would be ouch... Not sure I'll hang around for that.... waiting for the D1 and schedule 1st time I understand, but pushing out a couple months and they tell you the week it's supposed to be built (or they don't tell you.)

 

[AvsBest]

For the ones wondering on how full the line is or what the ratio of the models built, just think of how many cops drive chargers now and many chargers are for rentals...

 

[Scottys jet]

The letter refuses to address fall orders for customers not dealer stock . Are they looking to do first in first out ? Or dealer allocations take one at a time ?

 

[MrBigKid]

Well my dealership had 4 hellcats come and go for January 2015 and Zero for February 2015.

Don't ask how or why, my sales rep was surprised too.

I think that if there was just a locked down process we could count on we would all feel better. But so far there doesn't seem to be rhyme or reason to the allocation process.
Here's to hoping RS is right.

 

[Carnage]

I think that if there was just a locked down process we could count on we would all feel better. But so far there doesn't seem to be rhyme or reason to the allocation process.
Here's to hoping RS is right.

Yeah I hope so too

 

[F6F]

Reference:
ResumeSpeed's February allocation response:

The following dealers will NOT receive a Hellcat allocation this month: (Note: "Hellcat" = Challenger or Charger)
1. Dealers who have a non-sold Hellcat in stock
2. Dealers who have a non-sold Hellcat in any status from C to KZ
3. Dealers who had a non-sold Hellcat in stock for more than 5 days in January

Dealers who can say NO to all of the above are eligible to receive ONE allocation per month of either a Challenger or Charger Hellcat

The following criteria will be used to assign allocations:
1. Dealers ranked by total Dodge sales (past 90 days)
2. Dealers with sold orders will be prioritized above dealers with only stock orders
3. Available SRT Hellcat production for the period to be awarded, one-per-dealer, in priority order
4. Sold orders will be validated prior to scheduling

What happens if the dealership has an order that it's being built but it has not been delivered? Will they give them an allocation for a sold order let's say in March? Or they will give them an allocation when the car is off the books?
If that is the case, we may never see a car. There is some issue with the production, not too many cars are being delivered.

 

[TIGwelder]

We really shouldn't need a flow chart to see if our cars ordered on day one are going to be built or not. Either they are going to start prioritizing and building day 1 sold order cars or they aren't. Enough with the bean counting/dealer stroking allocation rules that are confusing and vague to certian criteria.

Yes or No to Sept sold orders. Either they can or they can't. It's getting old. And taking delivery of a 60k 2015 in July or August isn't acceptable.

 

[F6F]

I totally agree, but nobody gets information that we can trust from Dodge at all. They should be explaining what the heck is going on.

 

[rayzazoo]

Reference:
ResumeSpeed's February allocation response:

The following dealers will NOT receive a Hellcat allocation this month: (Note: "Hellcat" = Challenger or Charger)
1. Dealers who have a non-sold Hellcat in stock
2. Dealers who have a non-sold Hellcat in any status from C to KZ
3. Dealers who had a non-sold Hellcat in stock for more than 5 days in January

Dealers who can say NO to all of the above are eligible to receive ONE allocation per month of either a Challenger or Charger Hellcat

The following criteria will be used to assign allocations:
1. Dealers ranked by total Dodge sales (past 90 days)
2. Dealers with sold orders will be prioritized above dealers with only stock orders
3. Available SRT Hellcat production for the period to be awarded, one-per-dealer, in priority order
4. Sold orders will be validated prior to scheduling

What happens if the dealership has an order that it's being built but it has not been delivered? Will they give them an allocation for a sold order let's say in March? Or they will give them an allocation when the car is off the books?
If that is the case, we may never see a car. There is some issue with the production, not too many cars are being delivered.

Key words there are non-sold. Dodge might not be able to initially catch an order that is was placed in as a 1-sold order (really unsold) vs 4-dealer order, however, for the ones that are in as 4-dealer orders, those are what will prevent a dealership from getting another allocation. The extra screening is Dodge verify the sold orders, which will likely be either an email to the customer or a phone call.

 

[Rob K]

According to the head cheese himself (TK), dealers are only getting 1 allocation a month for sold orderds for hellcat's regardless of whether it is a challenger or charger. Until the backlog from summer orders goes down that is the process they are following.

At least it is an answer (not one I like)

if that's true it's gotta not include all the dealers first charger hellcat allocations since they're being filled. Even dealers with multiple allocations are filling them to customers on here.

However....if it's true for AFTER that there are probably a LOT of dealers now with allocations that never had any. I spoke to 3 in my hunt who didn't meet the qualifications for ANY! So if ALL get one now then there are quite a few that were previously overlooked who now have one. Squeeze in there quick.