For those who will install the skip shift eliminator on their M6.............

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  1. bolivarshagnasty

    bolivarshagnasty Gold Member

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    Received the package from Speedlogix a few days ago and decided to install today. Simple plug and play IF you are a trained contortionist. Didn't have the luxury of a lift so got the car in the air with jackstands. The Speedlogix instructions tell you to look just in front of the transmission crossmember (drivers side) and up near the top of the transmission. Instructions clearly state that it is the plug in at the TOP. Well I found plugging in the SSE in that location did NOT work. Took out reverse when I lowered the car. Instructions SHOULD read plug in located just in front of the transmission crossmember on drivers side and LOWER of the two plug ins.
    Had to jack the car back up and change where I had plugged them in. Test drove and everything fine now. Just wanted to give everyone a heads up. I'm not sure if the SSE from Speedlogix has multiple applications, and therefore the instructions are different because of that. Instructions not good for a Challenger Hellcat.
     
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    ljaviation Self proclaimed Banned, Because I can.

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    bolivar,
    Went in for the first oil change at my dealer. Bought the same thing from SL.
    I took it apart, its a 250 ohm resistor that fools the ECU. Even though it plugs "in line, or in series" with the with the existing harness, there is nothing that goes to the tranny. There are no electrical pins that go there. It is blank.
    The wiring harness end has a resistor that goes from one pin to the other. It is a two wire harness so the resistor goes from one pin to the other.

    Here is the rub. The reverse lockout solenoid, and the skip shift solenoid are the same. My directions stated to make sure you plug it into the forward solenoid upper of the tranny mount. They mounted it in the wrong position, had no reverse. I jacked the car up, and took me 5 minutes to undo and redo it properly. It works great,
    I don't understand why manufacturers do this. They say fuel economy, but if I pull out and someone is closing fast, and I don't reach the RPM limit to disengage skip shift I find that dangerous.
    Had no problems since, and I can go from 1rst to 2nd at any rpm I want.
    All I have to offer,
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    The skip shift is a political tool to allow the manufacturer to claim a better EPA mileage number and supports the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) requirements. Considering how easy it is to by pass... I am fine with the whole idea. Allows them to build the car I want and meet their requirements. I spend some change and spend a couple of minutes installing and now everyone is happy.
     
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    MoparGuy1 Senior Hellcat Member

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    So do you also lose your reverse lockout?
     
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    No, the only thing this affects is the solenoid that prevents shifting into 2nd gear (pushes you into the 4th gear gate).

    I mean really, it is minutes to install (if you have access to the lift), plug and play. If you decide you don't like it... you would spend more to take the wife to dinner than this item costs, just take it off.

    I have run a skip shift eliminator on two Challengers and my Camaro SS. In the case of the SS and Hellcat, I never even drove the car without the skip shift eliminator installed. (Dealer did installed it before I picked the car up).

    But I did drive the R/T (Avatar) with out the eliminator and I hated it when it activated and dumped me into 4th.
     
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    Thanks bolivarshagnasty for posting this. Luckily I did a few forum searches before I did this install. Can't believe Speedlogix hasn't updated their instructions on this! o_O And their diagram is a complete joke.

    I would have been pissed had I done the wrong plug. I'm already mad about the fact I removed the CDV before I found out about this Damn Skip Shift Crap. I swear, don't buy a muscle car for 15 years and the crap they come up with. When I buy a Stick, I don't want some crap engineering telling me how to shift gears. And I'm too freaking old to be jacking my car up and slithering around like a snake to perform these tasks! :D

    Quote "Shift blocking is a feature of automobile six-speed manual transmissions added to improve fuel economy ratings in the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) system by preventing a driver from switching from first gear to second or third as would be done normally."

    If the government is going to charge $1900 as a Gas Guzzler Tax, then leave my damn transmission the freak alone! :mad:
     
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    The dangerous part, they just push on to you. You shouldn't have pulled out, drive with more caution, etc etc.

    There is nothing against them to cause tskip
    Shift, even if dangerous or maybe disheartening in some situations, however they have a lot to gain with the skip shift.

    TL;DR
    Nothing to lose, everything to gain for OEM to skip shift.
     
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    Glad my post was able to save you a little trouble. I wasn't too happy that day I had to put the car back up on jack stands and change it. :mad:
     
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    Skip-shift can be defeated by using track, sport or custom mode.
     
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    No. That's only in the 2018 cars.

    R.K.
     
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    Maybe I don't understand how it works.. I start the car, put it into first, let clutch out and drive. I then shift into second, third, and then 4th, and all the way to 6th after 5th..
     
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    Depending on a perfect situation, it makes you shift form 1st to 4th. This bypasses this and it makes the car shift from 1st to 2nd etc.

    R.K.
     
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    LOL, that's how mine works as well. To skip shift, I have to consciously push the stick to 4th and 6th. Maybe we're both shifting at a lower RPM and preventing it from engaging? Just a dumb question but does one have to shift at 4K+ to energize it?
     
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    Pretty sure I saw that info in 2016 training video.
     
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    20 MPH is where both my Challengers forced a shift to 4th, but no longer. Faster or slower in 1st and you're fine.
     
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