Is the Hellcat a Supercar or not?

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  1. The Max

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    I guess it depends on how we define Supercar.

    Top speed- Higher the better= Fast

    !/4 mile - Lower the better - Quick = Acceleration

    Lateral acceleration = g force- Higher is better

    Challenger Hellcat-199mph and Charger Hellcat-204mph and for arguments sake let's say 200mph

    1/4 mile 11-11.2 let's average to 11.1sec.avg- mph-126

    Lateral G's - .95g

    When I was a kid , last century, in the 1960's there was a car called a Ford Shelby Cobra 427cu that did the 1/4 mi in 12.2@118 and if i remember about 165mph top end. Those numbers stood for decades as the numbers to beat That was a Supercar.at the time. Nothing was Faster or Quicker

    Of course we come to this wonderful technology of today . Name me the car that can combine or exceed all of these elements 200mph 11.1 sec@126 and .95g?

    How many cars out there can really compare with these Hellcats? Oh, forgot to mention if we add price and can accomodate 4 or more people.

    I declare these Hellcats as SUPERCARS in every respect and can't wait to get mine and have some FUN
     
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    Not even in a dream, well I guess you could dream about a super car, first obstacle is usually the price tag,LOL Ferrari, Lambo, McClaren, Bentley, pretty long list that need deep pockets..

    The cat is a modern day muscle car setting bar for others to catch up......
     
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    I think it's a super car but not a "SUPERCAR". In my mind that's a Porsche 918, Ferrari LaFerrai, McClaren P1, Lamborghini Aventador. I think a SUPERCAR has to have the performance but also the unobtainium factor as well.
     
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    I agree, its not a supercar because of its weight, and that it doesn't do well in the corners, That's what supercars are about.. Our hellcats are Raw American Muscle,, Plain and simple.. There is nothing that is coming out of the factory that can compare to our cars for the price, and sounds as nice in stock form...No replacement for displacement... Gotta love the sound of a big V-8
     
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    What you describe there are 1 million plus dollar cars, very limited production and I would call them Exotic cars. Have you ever tried to fit in those cockpits?

    Still no car, let's say production of over 2k, under $250k that accomodates 4 or more passengers can touch this Beast they call the Hellcat.

    The acceleration some testers and magazines are showing are just unbelievable. 0-150 from 15-17 seconds.

    I could change probably 99% of all people who live in 15 sec with a quick ride. Most people have not been over 100mph in a car

    BTW i still dont have my car to prove any of this and just internet racing with snow outside!

    These are wonderful times to be alive.
     
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    This car does make you question old standards because it's head and shoulders beyond what we've come to expect out of a factory muscle car. A super car, no - the pinnacle of modern muscle cars, yes!
     
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    The Viper and vettes would be the lower end of the supercar lineup, with the usual European models being top dogs.
    The HC is in no way, is in that category
     
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    I for one consider the Hellcat to be a supercar. The quarter-mile times & trap speeds, and top speed are the top determinants, and confirm my belief. Scarcity is not a factor in supercar status, just performance, I think some folks confuse exclusivity with supercar criteria, but it's just about performance, not uniqueness nor price, those are more reasonably associated with exotic cars. The hellcat is perhaps the only supercar to seat five passengers, and perhaps the only one with 18 airbags and 18 speakers and extensive adjustability modes which just adds to the allure, along with the much-lower price tag compared to it's 'competitors'. I don't consider it to be an exotic, such as the six-figure-to-multi-million-dollar supercars from Lambo, Panoz, Ferrari, Porsche 918, nor a hypercar such as Koenigsegg and Pagani and Veyron.
     
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    HC is not a supercar, the same way the Viper is not an exotic IMHO.

    It does however, set a new standard that all other muscle cars and sportscars will have to be compared against. It's a great time to be an enthusiast...especially if you favor the Mopar family.
     
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    Many, if not most, of the supercars from just a handful of years ago cannot even match the ET/speed of the stock Hellcat, nor the top speed. Supercar status is based on those factors, not rarity or having to be extremely expensive. So, until somebody explains WHY the Hellcat isn't a supercar, I will continue to assert that it IS. But, it's not an exotic, nor a hypercar, --nor does it cost a million bucks (like many of the more auspicious and rare exotics.)
     
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    I would say because it isn't impressive on a roadcourse. Stock Subaru's are quicker on some tracks...

    Look at the Grand National and GMC Syclone... Those were some of the fastest and quickest vehicles back in the late 80s and early 90s.... Beating exotics in acceleration. Those weren't considered supercars.

    Just my 2 cents...
     
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    It's a Pony car! " Pony cars are cruisin down Woodward Avenue go and try to pass 'em and they'll smoke you if you do" @ 2:00 from Ann Arbor's own Bob Seger! Sorry about the quality but studio versions are blocked:(
     
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    That's your opinion mine is different. Many cars today would wax a Lamborghini Countach but that to me is still a Supercar. It is about rarity, exclusivity, price, aura, etc...
     
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    I agree about the countach. But it still seems folks are confusing exotic with supercar. An exotic is supposed to have that exclusivity, aura, etc. Most supercars are exotics, but being an exotic isn't a prerequisite for supercar status. Just my opinion, --I know everybody doesn't share my belief!
     
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