Mobil 1 question

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  1. Catscratch Fever

    Catscratch Fever Silver Member

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    Can someone clear up the question that Dodge/FCA changed over to Mobil 1 from Pennzoil?
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    They switched from Mobil 1 to Pennzoil due to the bankruptcy in 2009. Are you saying they have switched back to Mobil 1?
     
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    Catscratch Fever Silver Member

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    Someone on this forum said they heard from a tech that Dodge is back using Mobil 1. Your right as far as I know there is no current oil that meets MS12633.
     
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    PlumCrazyHellCat Senior Hellcat Member

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    Unlikely since Mobil 1 doesn't meet the requirements for the Hellcat.
     
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    PlumCrazyHellCat Senior Hellcat Member

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    Redline and AMSOIL claim to meet the specs, but their oil is not certified.
     
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    Amsoil meets the MS12633 spec.But is not API certified.What this means is that the API. certification requires the manufacturer to keep this exact formulation for any specific oil that they have tested to get the API. cert.This means that if they want to change the formulation to improve the properties of a specific blend they have to get it certified again which is expensive and time consuming.This allows Amsoil to be on the cutting edge of development for engine oils.API. is nothing but a stumbling block for improving specific properties of the oil. Amsoil makes excellent products and passes API. Certs with ease and just because a new oil from Amsoil isn't API. certified really doesn't mean sh$t.
     
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    PlumCrazyHellCat Senior Hellcat Member

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    I kind of gather from your focused comment towards AMSOIL and the exclusion of Redline, that you represent AMSOIL in some way. Not that there is a problem with that, but it did get my attention. Just was curious. Since I can get the correct Pennzoil oil for $6.99 a quart instead of the $10-11 for the other two, I'll probably stick to the Pennzoil oil.
     
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    I talked to a Mobil engineer about Mobil 1 in our Hellcats. He told me his oil did NOT meet the 12633 specs and to use Pennzoil as required.
     
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    70k plus investment in a supercar, no, a RaceCar built for the street:

    Stick the oil in it that is tested, approved, certified by the engineers (those sharp bone heads at FCA that built this monster) that put their stamp on this winner:

    Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0W40
     
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    Go for it it is your choice.Everyone has to pick there own poison and there is a lot of good ones out there. Redline is good oil but Amsoil is better.My opinion and I am sticking with it.Just like you are sticking with Penn. Ultra. Amsoil has been making synthetic from natural gas for years now.
     
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    Jettster Gold Member Hellcat Car Club

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    Am I missing something here? My oil filler cap says 0w40 synthetic recommended. What could possibly be missing from mobil 1...
     
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    Markp Gold Member Hellcat Car Club Gold Supporting Member HCC Club Member

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    Really good mechanic at Raceway Dodge in Rexdale. His name is Garret Nalepka he is a certified Viper/SRT. He is part of the viper club and owns a Viper and is part of the Viper race team. He is also a instructor with Chrysler Canada. He is also a professor at Centennial College. Has his own area with hoist where nobody bugs him. Switched me to Mobil 1. Changed oil and diff fluid and there was another cat there right after me for his oil change. I will be taking my car there from now on. He said they have had problems with the Vipers ever since they switched to Pennzoil they even had a few motors fail. He said they have switched there Vipers to Mobil 1 and there Hellcats at that dealer and they have not had a single Viper or Hellcat burning oil since. He stated that the Pennzoil was just politics and mobil 1 is the better oil.

    Success Stories | Centennial prof contributes to Targa Newfoundland wins The guy in the picture is Garret.

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    rayzazoo DRIVESRT.COM Gold Supporting Member

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    It is definitely more accessible oil and less costly than the Pennzoil by about $20.
     
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    Mobil 1 does not meet the 12633 specs required by Chrysler. That said the spec involves a long term testing procedure that Mobil has not completed. Everything I read says Mobil meets the spec but is not certified...yet....I wouldn't be afraid to use Mobil but if something happened to your engine it may give Chrysler ammo to void your warranty..
     
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    Not when a Dodge Viper/SRT mechanic at the dealer puts it in.
     
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