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Discussion in 'SRT Hellcat Builds' started by Racist Cat, Jan 10, 2017.

  1. Ray Hunsaker

    Ray Hunsaker Silver Member Hellcat Car Club Gold Supporting Member HCC Charter Member

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    go with option #3
     
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  2. Racist Cat

    Racist Cat Gold Member

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    Probably.
    Waiting until tomorrow to decide if we will start pulling the motor, or what we will do.
     
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  3. El Gato Diablo

    El Gato Diablo Silver Member

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    If you're going to replace the short block I would go fully forged. The stock block is great but eventually it will reach its design limits.

    It sucks that this happened to you but I would spend the extra money now, if budget and wife allows, with a fully forged/billet setup considering you already have a fuel system capable of 1500hp on e85. If you're like some people here, 900rwhp isn't going to be enough for you and you will want to upgrade.

    Look forward to your new build and hope it goes well.
     
  4. cole3986

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    Merrick,

    The A8 transmission will not handle much more torque than your current build. The transmission shifts real slow between 4 and 5 gears as the power increases. I know this first hand, and you can hear other fast cats shift at the track, they bounce on the rev limiter due to the slow shift. It is one of the weakest link. Paramount and Southern Hotrod Transmission are testing beefy clutch packs. Maybe this solves the problem. For these reasons and the POS stock ring gear and pinion housing/mounting bolts, I vote for stock short block.
     
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  5. Racist Cat

    Racist Cat Gold Member

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    Cheap
    Fast
    Reliable.

    Pick any two.

    I'm good with 1krwp and reliable.
    Don't need more. I want to beat on this thing and no worries. I know it's doable.
     
  6. OhioHC

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    Sorry for the loss. Too bad you were not logging, my bet is detonation and lots of it. Hope you're back on the road soon.
     
  7. Racist Cat

    Racist Cat Gold Member

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    Here's what I put on facebook, on the hellcat group page.
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    I've driven this car hard for 700 some miles.
    Burned one set of back tires off. Took it on a trip that had me cruising 140-150mph for 15 minutes.

    Raced a few mustangs and corvettes on the highway.

    Many many bursts from 70-170.
    I have accidentally been 176mph.

    If it was the tune, it would have popped a long time ago.

    This was the first day I let it make shifts in manual mode.

    I was about to race a 650whp 2,900lb Corvette with a 150 shot of nitrous.
    I didn't want to lose, and I didn't want to go out unpracticed.

    This is racing. I knew I was close to my limit.
    This is not a bashing thread. I'm not afraid to say what happened.
    I have a detailed build thread on hellcat org.
    The good, the bad, the ugly.
    Don't go with pitch forks to my tuner, when it was me acting like a greedy teenager.
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    I think no cool down time between 7 back to back pulls, and shifting manual mode (letting it shift) is what did it in.
     
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  8. Racist Cat

    Racist Cat Gold Member

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    We logged over The span of 8 days and 300 miles.
    Cold starts. Hot starts, cruise, decel, accel, soft hits, wot burst, then did several pulls on the dyno.

    Pretty sure it wasn't in the tune. I just beat on it too hard with no cool down time and over revved it.
     
  9. jwalker793

    jwalker793 SRT Hellcat Supporter Gold Supporting Member

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    Option 1. New short block is available now on eBay. Your build plan was/is solid.
     
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  10. Toolman_42

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    We can rebuild him, we have the technology, better, faster, stronger

    ...6 million dollar man!
     
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  11. Mo-par!

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    Option 4 - forged then have the man make you some 426 Hemi badges!
     
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  12. BULL

    BULL ________173.7mph_______ ___2016 Colorado Mile___ Gold Supporting Member HOTM Winner

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    Warning: .02


    Your build in my mind was close to the limit of "Hellcat", options that take the motor away from "Hellcat" while cool, would detract from the mystique of what we are driving...

    Stick with the 6.2 block, even if it's upgraded, other options won't be Hellcat anymore...


    Re-Warning: .02
     
  13. Lord Hellcat

    Lord Hellcat Gold Member Hellcat Car Club Gold Supporting Member HCC UK President HCC Charter Member

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    Oh shit RC. So sorry to read this. I admire your strength of resolve when things have gone this bad. Hats off to you fella. A positive mental attitude wins the day. Awesome.
    As for recommendations I am sort of thinking massive overkill. Build a motor capable of making and easy 1500hp and just dial it back. Surely that makes it the most bullet proof. But as I am useless with spanners I am probably not qualified to give a truly informed opinion.
     
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  14. shadowsk

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    Soryy to hear your bad luck. I admire your attitude. I would go with option 3!
     
  15. JeffL

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    the carnage pictures are pretty horrible to look at. sorry for the loss. will be following the rebuild thread.

    what RPM was it shifting at when left to forced shift in manual mode?
     
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