Well Finally got the Fuel Rail recall service done AND....

Discussion in 'SRT Hellcat TSB's' started by Driver72, May 25, 2015.

  1. Driver72

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    decided to have the transmission and PCM software update as well.
    The Viper/SRT service tech advised it, and he was UBER knowledgable.
    So I did it.

    Is it just me, or did those of you who have had this work done feel you can hear the supercharger whine more now?
    I swear there is a noticeable more whine in the 2-4k range under moderate acceleration.
    I also feel that even in Street mode the transmission is holding on to the gear a bit longer before shifting. That part may be in my head, but the supercharger whine seems more noticeable.
    Shifting is still smooth and quick, I didn't notice anything different there.

    The tech and dealer let me drive my own car into service bay, let me stand there in the service bay and chat with Viper/SRT tech while he worked too.
    Of course, several techs and some other people kept coming over to check car out.
    He didn't even get in the car, ever either. I heard of a story or two of other techs driving their Hellcat after the fuel rail install. My tech didn't even do that. Said he won't drive customers cars when they are SRT's. He'll sit in passenger seat if needed.
    I started the car after the install while he stood in front of car.
    No issues.
    I will return to him for future service.
    He's a MOPAR nut and a drag racer too.


    Here's the bad part:
    As I was leaving the tech said, "ok drive safe, don't get too many tickets"
    15 minutes later I was pulled over and given a ticket Claimed I was doing 84 in a 70
    I looked down the second I saw the cop and saw 77 on my digital speedo.
    Luckily, I'm friends with a Deputy in the same area I got the ticket. So he is looking into it and seeing what he can do about it.
    Hope my buddy can clear the ticket. Sorry for the off topic rant about the ticket.
    **Update: ticket was erased from my driving record, ticket fee was reduced to just the "court fee" which is $124. So it was a $124 mistake forgetting to put my radar detector back in my Hellcat. That won't happen again. :)
     
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    I used to know car models before we were invaded, not now.
     
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    Glad car treated well (and you sounds like great experience.)

    You looked down to know your speed, when you saw him... Sounds like you earned the ticket doubt the patrolman made an error, maybe but he may have been more in tune than you based on how you described. His job isn't knowing cars and he probably wishes to use his time helping the public in better ways, cut him a little slack maybe... Good luck.
     
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    a dash cam with gps could have proven your case
     
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    So that's how FCA get the Hellcat top speed of 200mph. But seriously if your going over the speed limit you have to "check your six" constantly. Sometimes you luck out and get a "car guy " cop and luck out. And other times Your Cat will bite you back.
     
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    Yes I always do look down to double check my speed when I see a cop, doesn't everybody??
    I lifted off throttle immediately (as everyone does) and looked down immediately. Saw 77
    There is no way I slowed from 84 to 77 in a split second.

    Also I disagree with you, it IS a patrol officer's job in the traffic division (really any officer) to know cars. They are trained to identify people, objects, cars, etc in a split second glance, as sometimes that's ALL they get.
    I used to know cars at night based on their headlights or taillights.
    The Hellcat is ALL OVER the magazines, reviews, videos, etc. How could he NOT know what it is.
    And he sincerely didn't know. He didn't ask for my registration or proof of insurance, just Driver's License, so the only way he could write the car description in the box area was to ask me. He was clueless. That's subpar work and job performance on his part.
     
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    Ironically I have one, but my speed reading is turned off.
    Having it on is a double edge sword. In this case, it could prove I wasn't going 84, but in another if you have to show the video in court for any reason you were NOT at fault for something (like someone swerving in front of you causing an accident) and it shows you are going 10, or 15 mph, over the speed limit at a given time, it could be used AGAINST you.

    I am the first to admit when I do wrong, but I know I was NOT going 84 mph.
    My biggest mistake here was not getting my radar detector out of my suitcase and putting it back in the car before heading to the dealership for the TSB.

    Anyway, that mistake is not going to happen again, and hopefully my sheriff buddy will get the ticket removed.
     
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    Well if he made a mistake should be simple to clear up. Hope it works out.
     
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    So,, did you experience any issues with the way the car runs and starts after the fuel rail replacement..and did they say anything about radiator clamps
     
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    And I do that too.
    The Hellcat requires you to, more than any other car I've owned, to use full restraint and be VERY vigilant of your speed.
    So I am always glancing down at the speedo to make sure I'm cruising no more than 7-9 mph over posted speed limit (no cop in the nation I've ever come across will ticket you for that much over, usually it requires 10+ mph over unless of course you are in a school zone or a posted 20-25 mph zone which going 8-9 over is enough to get a ticket).
    I MAY have been going 78 mph and the split second i lifted and looked down it dropped to 77. But I know I was not going 84.
    Anyway, with the Hellcat, we all know we can expect to get tickets or we are going to speed. I accepted that when getting the car, I just feel in this case, I truly was not doing the speed he said I was.

    If my buddy can't get it taken care of, it's a $200 lesson I learned to make sure I have the radar detector in the car at all times.
    (I actually just ordered a new Escort Max, so I can KEEP it in the Hellcat at all times. Will use my Passport X50 (which is a few years old, but still works great and is accurate....never got a ticket with it on in my cars) in my daily driver and IF I ever need to take it out for rental cars again. Hellcat will never be without the new Escort Max again. :)
     
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    There was a bit of a long crank at first start up. Like it sputtered for a split second after a slightly longer cranking. That is understandable since the new fuel rail didn't have any fuel in it until after the car was turned back on.
    Then it was flawless.

    Yes, he actually gave me the new clamp.
    He asked me if I wanted to change the upper radiator hose clamp, but he said it would be a bit longer as it would make a mess as it spews out some radiator fluid when he disconnects the old clamp.
    He gave me the clamp, I put it in my trunk, secured down. He mentioned I can do it myself if I want to siphon out the antifreeze and put new clamp on, then put antifreeze back in, or next time I'm there he'll do it. He, for some reason, didn't have his siphon with him, and I was on a bit of a time crunch too. I didn't rush him on the fuel rail or software update, but I needed to leave within 1/2 hour or so, and he felt he wanted a bit more time to do clamp if he had to clean up the mess of some antifreeze.
     
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    If he didn't ask for insurance and registration, was he wearing a cam, if not probably was recording from car. I'd go to court, challenge the stop and speed accuracy, use the lack of procedural stuff the camera would identify to question the integrity of his claims. Bet your fine would be reduced, maybe suspended if you have clean record.
     
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    Good points.
    He was very nice and so was I.
    But I literally said to him, "with all due respect sir, I know I was not going 84, I was watching my speed"
    He said, how fast were you going?
    I said, honestly, 77.
    He said, "well this is a 70 mph zone"
    Then he started to write the ticket.
    He made a note on the bottom that said I "claimed I was doing 77 mph"

    If buddy can't get ticket removed, I'll go to court.
    I may even take the video from my camera to show that I wasn't flying by people going 84.
    He didn't even let me pass before pulling out. He pulled out into the slow lane turned lights on and stuck his arm out the window, pointed back at my car and waved me over."
    That is weird and dangerous IMHO.
    You let the car pass, then pull up behind them, he could of caused an accident. He pulled in front of a black C6 Corvette in the process.
     
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    Well, the good news is, the guy that gave me the ticket is the supervisor of my deputy friend. LOL
    So he agreed to erase the ticket from my record and the ticket fee, but I have to pay the $124 court fee.
    So it was a $124 mistake not having my radar in, but luckily the rest of the ticket charge was erased and there will be no point on my driving record. :)
     
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    Good Job on getting only the court fee. I got pulled over in my Toyota Pickup about 15 years ago. I saw the CHP coming toward me . I let off the gas and saw I was doing 61mph....in a 55 mph zone. After she passed me, she did a U turn and lit me up. Said her radar clocked me at 75mph. No way I told her. She wrote me up for 75 and I just paid the ticket. I look at it as just an added expense for vehicle ownership. Just thinking of all the times I was speeding in the past and didn't get cited....lol
     

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