When will the ADM bubble burst?

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  1. KLR CAT

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    While I know there are many, many people still waiting for cars (me included), I have to begin to wonder when the dealers will realize they are never going to sell cars with ADM added. I mean most of the early adopters, with the means and desire to pay the ADM tax for a car right away, have already done so. These crazy marked up cars have been sitting for months in some cases. On top of that, the marketing hype about these cars is dwindling in the media. Do they really think someone is going to just, out of the blue, find out about this car and rush out and drop whatever amount of money it takes to get one on the spot?

    On top of that, FCA seems to be building these at a steady rate now, and by end of the year will likely be caught up. I seriously doubt the rush for 2016s will be anything close to the first batch of 2015s, what with the speculators and collectors, so really I think if they don;t move these cars in the next few months they are going to be stuck with them much longer or drop to MSRP or below to move them once 2016s are rolling. Thoughts?
     
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  3. F6F-3

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    I would speculate that it won't be at least until the A8s are readily available.
     
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    I think once all those still waiting to have their open order filled have a car we will see the availability of cars at MSRP become the norm. That does not appear likely to happen MY 2015 but perhaps sometime in 2016.
     
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    Late 2016 or 2017 if at all. The numbers just do not work out well. Based upon what is known, it is safe to assume that 3-4k orders are rolling over to 2016. Even if the people who placed their orders cancel, the Dealers will never inform FCA of the cancellation. They know that production constraints (shared line, component product shortages) means that it is likely that no more than 6k Hellcats will be built each model year (likely much less).

    There are about 3200 dealers in North America. In the simplest terms, using a straight "everyone is equal" allocation, no dealer will get more than 2 (if they build 6.4K) or 3 (if they build 9.6k) for the entire model year 2016. If they do not used the "everyone is equal" allocation, some will get none. Each dealer is faced with this quandary "why sell a car for MSRP if am only going to get one or two? If I sell my one Hellcat with a $5k - $10K up charge, it is the equivalent of selling 3 to 4 at MSRP." Of course, that does not make it right. Again, the numbers just do not work out, unless demand falls off the cliff. I can't see that happening. Ask anyone who has driven Hellcat; the car is a rock star. While we have been obsessed with this car since last summer, the general public is just becoming aware of it.
     
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  6. Fionn MacCumhaill

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    I would have to agree with this. I still talk to people about the Hellcat and they are like "huh? What? Wow that is awesome....maybe I should try to get one..." With all the backorders and the time it takes to make these cars I don't see a "backorder-less" model year until maybe M2017 and only then could we possibly see the ADM craziness begin to dwindle. But that is just my opinion, who knows. :confused:
     
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    It's simple. As long as hellcat is an "allocated" or limited car it will command msrp or greater period.
     
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    They are selling cars at ADM. Not the ludicrous ones, but at less than $10k, easily.

    Desire and markup are in for a long time here. They are unofficially loaded with 2016 orders already if you count carryovers and the norm for what many have heard dealers already have for a list already.

    FCA likes this attention, don't think they are going to build a gluttony of these cars to make everyone happy ASAP plus have surplus. They've always kept a tight leash on SRT productions.
     
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    I think we're still a solid year away from people being able to get a Hellcat at MSRP without much fuss.
     
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    Lord Hellcat Gold Member Hellcat Car Club Gold Supporting Member HCC UK President HCC Charter Member

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    I agree. I see at least another year of waiting, disappointment and the continuation of ADM's. Unless someone else comes out with something to eclipse the Hellcat it will continue.
     
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    That's a great point, when it comes to insane power, the Hellcat is basically the only game in town (for the price). If a new Camaro or Mustang comes out anywhere in the ballpark, they will almost certainly steal away some Hellcat customers, particularly if the VON-hell production woes are still in effect.
     
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    by this time next year i predict no more adm's on the hellcat. the 65k plus car market is hyper competitive with limited buyers. along with increased competition from other car makers and with used hellcats coming to market, you will be able to buy a hellcat for 65k in twelve months. other then the ford gt which which was limited edition car, i can't think of any american car that sold with adm for more then 12 months.

    the car industry abhors a vacuum. the other car makers are not going to let dodge eat up an entire car segment and price point. other cars will arrive to fill the void the hellcat has created.

    the hellcat was a wake up call and i think made the ford gt350 still born. the gt350 looks like a supped up gt mustang compared to the hellcat.

    the hellcat is a regular production car and will hit equilibrium sooner rather then later.

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    Uhmmm, the GT350 isn't meant to compete with the Hellcat. It will run rings around the HCs on a road course. Now, the next GT500.....I'll bet a Dunkin Donuts coffee it's over 707HP. Probably between 749-801.
     
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    Yep, the GT350 is to compete against the Camaro Z28, they're both monster track cars. The Hellcat competitors are the ZL1 and the GT500, both of which will likely be packing huge HP when they're next released.
     
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    Here's a dealer with 3 on the way....

    Where's the equality?

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