[1Hellcat2Envy]

Hey guys! I'm trying to order some goodies from metco but would like to know if anyone is running the setup I'm interested in before doing so...

2017 Hellcat Charger A8
BWoody intake
Cat delete
Id1000's
E85
2.4 upper pulley
10% lower

Car will be dyno tuned on dynojet with HP tuners software on stock ecu in Miami, FL.

Let the comments begin!

 

[El Gato Diablo]

You need at least id1300 and you are probably reaching critical speed on the supercharger with that pulley combo. With the lower and 2.65 upper it puts you around 19-20psi.

Also need a Bap or a fuel system.

 

[Mills]

I don't have any 1st hand experience - but I will vote that you will need ID1300's with that combo...

 

[crazycat]

Gonna make too much heat too quickly and kill HP with a 2.4 not to mention probably destroy your superchager. 2.65/10% lower I get right around 17-18 psi

 

[Toolman_42]

Handful of quality tuners here on the forum that have proven results. Not sure it's worth the risk of going one off with your own box of parts. Certainly don't need an intake.

I'd search them before considering a homemade package as they seem to have a very good recipes on the Hellcats. Here's a few to search on:
Josh or AJ (Hemituner) @ High Horseman (HHP)
Tim @ Barth Tuning
Skip @ Demon Performance


No affiliation with any of these but I've seen the testaments and timeslips posted.

 

[1Hellcat2Envy]

You need at least id1300 and you are probably reaching critical speed on the supercharger with that pulley combo. With the lower and 2.65 upper it puts you around 19-20psi.

Also need a Bap or a fuel system.

I doubt I need a fuel system. There's cars out there at 1000whp with a stock fuel system just a bap.

 

[El Gato Diablo]

Gonna make too much heat too quickly and kill HP with a 2.4 not to mention probably destroy your superchager. 2.65/10% lower I get right around 17-18 psi

You be surprised how much boost your making since the stock sensors stop reading after 17.5 ish.

 

[1Hellcat2Envy]

Gonna make too much heat too quickly and kill HP with a 2.4 not to mention probably destroy your superchager. 2.65/10% lower I get right around 17-18 psi

Thanks. I heard Tim @ Barth tuning was running the 2.4 10% setup for months before selling the car.

 

[El Gato Diablo]

I doubt I need a fuel system. There's cars out there at 1000whp with a stock fuel system just a bap.

Just talk to your tuner since he will ultimately be the one that should guide you through the part selection. Agreed with the bap just putting it out there that you need either or. Remember e85 1000hp to the wheels is different than race gas 1000hp to the wheels. You will need 30% more fuel with e85.

 

[1Hellcat2Envy]

My pocket is going to hurt with those 1300's lol. Maybe a 2.5 upper 10% with the 1000's?

 

[crazycat]

Thanks. I heard Tim @ Barth tuning was running the 2.4 10% setup for months before selling the car.

He's the one that told me it wasn't beneficial

 

[1Hellcat2Envy]

Just talk to your tuner since he will ultimately be the one that should guide you through the part selection. Agreed with the bap just putting it out there that you need either or. Remember e85 1000hp to the wheels is different than race gas 1000hp to the wheels. You will need 30% more fuel with e85.

My tuner is a Chevy guy, and not too firmiliar with the hellcat yet. Yes indeed 30% more with e85.

 

[1Hellcat2Envy]

He's the one that told me it wasn't beneficial

Sweet. Any way of contacting him?

 

[crazycat]

Sweet. Any way of contacting him?

815-721-2183

 

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Hey Chris...This is the thread I mentioned, tuned by Tim:

New 16 build

The other car that I mentioned (that has since been sold) was built by Injected Engineering, in Georgia.

You are considering a very aggressive pulley combo, so please proceed with caution. Feel free to contact me again if I can help.

 

[1Hellcat2Envy]

815-721-2183

Hey Chris...This is the thread I mentioned, tuned by Tim:

New 16 build

The other car that I mentioned (that has since been sold) was built by Injected Engineering, in Georgia.

You are considering a very aggressive pulley combo, so please proceed with caution. Feel free to contact me again if I can help.

Thanks Rick you're the man.

 

[SRTFighter]

I have personally ran the 2.4 on the factory fuel system. (pump 93) With that said I made more power by switching to a larger upper on the same factory fuel setup. I am now planning to go back to the 2.4 with larger ID1700s and E85.

1Hellcat2Envy If you are worried about how much the ID 1300s are going to cost then I say skip the ATI 10% lower and use that money towards the 1300s. I am like you and I like to jump to the biggest, best, fastest, whatever but please listen to everyone who is telling you that a 2.4 upper and a 10% lower will greatly increase your chances of grenading the supercharger. This could be you if you are not cautious.

 

[eRaced Cat]

I run a 2.65 and 10%
I made 20psi on the dyno.

Ignore the hp&tq numbers. This dyno was setup for loading the engine and tuning, not hp wars...

 

[SRTFighter]

I agree, that a 2.65 is the smallest upper I would run with the ATI 10% lower. ...but on the other hand, you would make the same PSI on a 2.4 and could save yourself from the hassle of pinning the crank and spending extra money on the ATI unnecessarily. I still have my ATI sitting in my closet collecting dust, because I feel it isn't needed anymore.

 

[1Hellcat2Envy]

I have personally ran the 2.4 on the factory fuel system. (pump 93) With that said I made more power by switching to a larger upper on the same factory fuel setup. I am now planning to go back to the 2.4 with larger ID1700s and E85.

1Hellcat2Envy If you are worried about how much the ID 1300s are going to cost then I say skip the ATI 10% lower and use that money towards the 1300s. I am like you and I like to jump to the biggest, best, fastest, whatever but please listen to everyone who is telling you that a 2.4 upper and a 10% lower will greatly increase your chances of grenading the supercharger. This could be you if you are not cautious.

Thanks for the advice. I do have a question I'm a little confused about... a 10% lower pulley with a 2.4 upper will make more boost than a 2.4 upper and a stock lower? Or it's the other way around?