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2015-2023 Hellcat-Redeye-Demon-SS Peak HP/TQ Comparisons

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2015 - 2017 Hellcat (compared to base 2015 Hellcat):
714 HP @ 6200rpm measured, 707 HP @ 6000rpm advertised
652 TQ @ 4800rpm measured, 650 TQ @ 4800rpm advertised

2018 Hellcat (+ electric power steering, widebody option with 20x11 rims)
730 HP @ 6200rpm measured, (+16 HP), 707 HP @ 6000rpm advertised
654 TQ @ 4800rpm measured, (+2 TQ), 650 TQ @ 4800rpm advertised

2019+ Hellcat (Combined air-flow rate of 1,048 CFM, after-run chiller, torque reserve, dual scoop hood, line lock):
745 HP @ 6200rpm measured (+31 HP), 717 HP @ 6000rpm advertised
662 TQ @ 4800rpm measured, (+10 TQ), 656 TQ @ 4800rpm advertised

2019+ Redeye (Combined air-flow rate of 1,130 CFM, 2.7L SC @ 14.5 psi peak boost, 6500 rpm rev limit increase, 25 engine component upgrade including strengthened connecting rods and pistons, high-speed valve train, fuel injection system and improved lubrication system, SRT Power Chiller, 700 cc fuel injectors, Two dual-stage fuel pumps, steel prop shafts (driveshaft) for 15% increase torque capacity (2lbs heavier), 41-spline half shafts for 20% increase torque)
793 HP @ 6200rpm measured (+79 HP), 797 HP @ 6300rpm advertised, 812 HP @ 6400rpm measured
709 TQ @ 4800rpm measured (+57 TQ), 707 TQ @ 4500rpm advertised, 719 TQ @ 4800rpm measured

2020 - 2023 Super Stock (Combined air-flow rate of 1,134 CFM)
793 HP @ 6200rpm measured (+79 HP), 807 HP @ 6400rpm advertised, 812 HP @ 6400rpm measured
709 TQ @ 4800rpm measured (+57 TQ), 707 TQ @ 4500rpm advertised, 719 TQ @ 4800rpm measured

2018 Demon (Combined air-flow rate of 1,150 CFM, transbrake, drag-mode suspension, Air-Grabber hood)
804 HP @ 6200rpm measured (+90 HP), 808 HP @ 6300rpm advertised, 812 HP @ 6400rpm measured
719 TQ @ 4800rpm measured (+67 TQ), 717 TQ @ 4500rpm advertised, 719 TQ @ 4800rpm measured

2018 Demon (+ 100 octane PCM tune)
835 HP @ 6200rpm measured (+121 HP), 840 HP @ 6300rpm advertised, 845 HP @ 6400rpm measured
776 TQ @ 4800rpm measured (+124 TQ), 770 TQ @ 4500rpm advertised, 774 TQ @ 4500rpm measured

2023 Demon 170
1,025 bhp (764 kW) @ 6,500 rpm with E-85 fuel
900 bhp (671 kW) @ 6,500 rpm with Premium 91 octane fuel

945 lb.-ft (1,281 Nm) @ 4,200 rpm with E-85 fuel
810 lb.-ft (1098 Nm) @ 4,200 with Premium 91 octane fuel

SAE Measured
812 HP @ 6400rpm SAE measured Demon/Redeye/Super Stock/Jailbreak
845 HP @ 6400rpm SAE measured Demon with 100 octane / Race PCM

Advertised Direct Connection Kits
Hellcat:
747 bhp Hellcat w/ PreStage Kit (2015-2018)
757 bhp Hellcat w/ PreStage Kit (2019+)

Redeye:
802 bhp (598 kW) Redeye w/ PreStage Kit
807 bhp (601 kW) SRT Super Stock & Jailbreak w/ PreStage Kit
840 bhp (626 kW) Redeye w/ Stage I (100 octane functionality)
837 bhp (624 kW) Redeye w/ Stage II (3.17 Hellephant pulley and 91 octane)
885 bhp (660 kW) Redeye w/ Stage II (3.17 Hellephant pulley and 100 octane)

Direct Connection Redeye Stage II
(+ 100 octane PCM tune; 180 tstat, 3.17 Hellephant pulley)
875 HP @ 6200rpm measured (+161HP), 885 HP @ 6400rpm measured
787 TQ @ 4800rpm measured (+135TQ), 786 TQ @ 4500rpm measured

Source: SAE Engine Power Certification Database (EPCD)
SAE J1349 certified results. Chrysler Test Center Test Cells C07 and C08.
SAE J1349 testing standards (SAE J1349 standard of 77°F (25°C) day with 0% humidity and a barometric pressure of 29.234 in-Hg (99 KPa)).
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If I am not mistaken 2018 only has EPS on wide body models
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Good stuff Ray!!
Seems like some random numbers that don't compare.

Wouldn't you also need to post the density altitude and temperature for when each test was ran to be somewhat comparable?

I mean I could test one here at 110 degrees F and one at night at 55 degrees F in the same day. I'm sure I could get a bigger split than this.
If I am not mistaken 2018 only has EPS on wide body models
You are correct .

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Seems like some random numbers that don't compare.

Wouldn't you also need to post the density altitude and temperature for when each test was ran to be somewhat comparable?

I mean I could test one here at 110 degrees F and one at night at 55 degrees F in the same day. I'm sure I could get a bigger split than this.
Yup, without all the important info, it's just nonsense numbers.
Yup, without all the important info, it's just nonsense numbers.
:rolleyes:
Ok then post the DA, weather, type of dyno, etc for each & every pull with sheets.

Oh wait, it's true if it's on the internet...
If im not mistaken the OP is not just the average dude. :)
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If im not mistaken the OP is not just the average dude. :)
Bingo, you are not mistaken.
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Ok then post the DA, weather, type of dyno, etc for each & every pull with sheets.

Oh wait, it's true if it's on the internet...
Where did you get this info from?

R.K.
Chrysler Test Center Test Cells C07 and C08.
SAE J1349 testing standards (SAE J1349 standard of 77°F (25°C) day with 0% humidity and a barometric pressure of 29.234 in-Hg (99 KPa)).

These are the SAE power certification test results conducted about 1 year prior to release of the product to market. The public can purchase the dyno sheets at sae.org.

A nice article from Roadkill when the Demon engine was tested.

Dodge Shows Us The Demon Engine On The Dyno - Roadkill
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Chrysler Test Center Test Cells C07 and C08.
SAE J1349 testing standards (SAE J1349 standard of 77°F (25°C) day with 0% humidity and a barometric pressure of 29.234 in-Hg (99 KPa)).

These are the SAE power certification test results conducted about 1 year prior to release of the product to market. The public can purchase the dyno sheets at sae.org.

A nice article from Roadkill when the Demon engine was tested.

Dodge Shows Us The Demon Engine On The Dyno - Roadkill
Ray, if those are tests using 91 octane, will it allow a bit more timing (power) if we use a solid 93 octane?
Ray, if those are tests using 91 octane, will it allow a bit more timing (power) if we use a solid 93 octane?
91 octane are the tests except for the Demon 100 octane test.

93 octane could but it’s better to run a pure 91 and properly tune for higher octane.

Also the goal is to keep the air charge temperature under 140 deg F (the IAT reading on the SRT performance pages; the reading taken post-supercharger) to prevent any loss from the rated power.
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Cool info. Always wondered. Thanks
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Thank you, Sir. Great info. Looking forward to getting into the new machine. My '15 tested out over the top of the range, but we may have had an exceptional DA with 93. I always run it and the Cat has seemed to like it a lot.
As much as I like Shell 91 ethanol free gas, my cat feels more peppy on 94 octane (up to 10% ethanol).
Definitely has more power for a given throttle opening. This is seat of the pants observations, however, I have switched back and forth not to prove a point, but leading up to vehicle storage time, I start filling with ethanol free gas and the car loses a bit of "sharpness".
Typically, air is cooler and denser around storage time so if anything, the car should perform better.
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Running hard and hot it gave me misfire codes on our road course, with 93. Added octane booster never have a problem since and it seems to eat stuff up on the 3/4 mile roll basically. So it runs strong and consistent on a good diet. FYI it recorded 670/666, with the DA of about 700'.
Running hard and hot it gave me misfire codes on our road course, with 93. Added octane booster never have a problem since and it seems to eat stuff up on the 3/4 mile roll basically. So it runs strong and consistent on a good diet. FYI it recorded 670/666, with the DA of about 700'.

Interesting... I would have thought 93 would've been perfect. Maybe its the RON VS MON makeup of that fuel?
Sure it may be 93, but that rating is an average of the two ratings.
I notice that race gas actually lists the average octane and the two ratings separately...

At first I thought maybe your car might be fuel starved when you're loading up the Gs cornering and getting the misfire.

BTW, nice engine hp/tq numbers!
Interesting... I would have thought 93 would've been perfect. Maybe its the RON VS MON makeup of that fuel?
Sure it may be 93, but that rating is an average of the two ratings.
I notice that race gas actually lists the average octane and the two ratings separately...

At first I thought maybe your car might be fuel starved when you're loading up the Gs cornering and getting the misfire.

BTW, nice engine hp/tq numbers!
Oh no. That can happen, I have had it happen, so never start a session with less than 3/4 FULL. It runs great on 93, I am good with it.
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