[JeffSuperstock2020]

Hi guys I need some help here as you may know the 2020 superstock was a limited production because of coronavirus 196 vehicles I have one black with black and red interior and sunroof which makes it one of five in the The world I just found out that they’re discontinuing Mopar I’m top of that this is where the issue comes in I did some modifications to the vehicle such as E 85 285 pulley 10% dampener differential break and a tune I was making 910 hp to the wheels and then them thinkable happened I blew the supercharger no I don’t know if I should put the original supercharger back on her or upgrade her two a magnuson even though it’s a better supercharger and could put a lot more horsepower I wouldn’t go over 950 wheel because that would be the limit to the transmission and a driveshaft or should I just purchased the original supercharger and take her back to stock she has less than 5000 miles

 

[Slowpoke387]

Holy run-on sentence Batman.
Stock.
Discontinuing Mopar? Do you mean SRT? Yes the separate division has been eliminated but Mopar will continue.

 

[SuperChallenger]

ummm.....wut.

 

[Hellcatski]

Do what you want it’s really not worth anything. Enjoy your car.

 

[Xylander]

Hi guys I need some help here as you may know the 2020 superstock was a limited production because of coronavirus 196 vehicles I have one black with black and red interior and sunroof which makes it one of five in the The world I just found out that they’re discontinuing Mopar I’m top of that this is where the issue comes in I did some modifications to the vehicle such as E 85 285 pulley 10% dampener differential break and a tune I was making 910 hp to the wheels and then them thinkable happened I blew the supercharger no I don’t know if I should put the original supercharger back on her or upgrade her two a magnuson even though it’s a better supercharger and could put a lot more horsepower I wouldn’t go over 950 wheel because that would be the limit to the transmission and a driveshaft or should I just purchased the original supercharger and take her back to stock she has less than 5000 miles

What you're describing is what collectors term a "minor" collectible. Dodge did not serialize them and they are not unique aside from the model year. The 2021 SS is the same as the 2020... and collectors are not going to pay a premium for a 2020 anytime soon. Now, in 50 years, someone might have a rare 2020 SS that's rarely been driven and the low production early release cars in 2020 might be worth a little more. But the value will be in the car itself, not the production year.

Since you've already modified it, the value is lost forever. That's because the car will throw the hidden P1400 code from now until eternity, and extensively modified cars don't sell in the collector market for collector grade money. Granted, in 50 years when most of us are gone and dead, any sort of Hellcat may be worth money... but like for like, condition similar, the modified cars will be the bottom of the pile.

 

[rcrisafulli]

What you're describing is what collectors term a "minor" collectible. Dodge did not serialize them and they are not unique aside from the model year. The 2021 SS is the same as the 2020... and collectors are not going to pay a premium for a 2020 anytime soon. Now, in 50 years, someone might have a rare 2020 SS that's rarely been driven and the low production early release cars in 2020 might be worth a little more. But the value will be in the car itself, not the production year.

Since you've already modified it, the value is lost forever. That's because the car will throw the hidden P1400 code from now until eternity, and extensively modified cars don't sell in the collector market for collector grade money. Granted, in 50 years when most of us are gone and dead, any sort of Hellcat may be worth money... but like for like, condition similar, the modified cars will be the bottom of the pile.

Bingo. Well said. You do not have a vintage Shelby Mustang. Seems like you want your money back because the market is hot. If that is the reason go for it.

Robert

 

[BrakeFade]

You modded it, enjoy it. Superstocks are being built in 2021. Not a lot of limited availability since you’re in the middle of a model run.

 

[baabootoo]

Dude, punctuation! I'm not sure what the question/problem/concern is either. Hellcats will NOT be collectibles............as much as we may want. Remember the insane prices they got for the 1st Gen Challengers??????????

 

[Hellcatski]

People will just order a 22 super stock. Or 23. The 2023 superstock could even be more rare they might have a rare color Limited Edition blah blah blah last year.

 

[JeffSuperstock2020]

What you're describing is what collectors term a "minor" collectible. Dodge did not serialize them and they are not unique aside from the model year. The 2021 SS is the same as the 2020... and collectors are not going to pay a premium for a 2020 anytime soon. Now, in 50 years, someone might have a rare 2020 SS that's rarely been driven and the low production early release cars in 2020 might be worth a little more. But the value will be in the car itself, not the production year.

What you're describing is what collectors term a "minor" collectible. Dodge did not serialize them and they are not unique aside from the model year. The 2021 SS is the same as the 2020... and collectors are not going to pay a premium for a 2020 anytime soon. Now, in 50 years, someone might have a rare 2020 SS that's rarely been driven and the low production early release cars in 2020 might be worth a little more. But the value will be in the car itself, not the production year.

Since you've already modified it, the value is lost forever. That's because the car will throw the hidden P1400 code from now until eternity, and extensively modified cars don't sell in the collector market for collector grade money. Granted, in 50 years when most of us are gone and dead, any sort of Hellcat may be worth money... but like for like, condition similar, the modified cars will be the bottom of the pile.

Since you've already modified it, the value is lost forever. That's because the car will throw the hidden P1400 code from now until eternity, and extensively modified cars don't sell in the collector market for collector grade money. Granted, in 50 years when most of us are gone and dead, any sort of Hellcat may be worth money... but like for like, condition similar, the modified cars will be the bottom of the pile.

Yes it is true that has a hidden code P1400
But like all car manufacturers there is a way to remove the code you just have to have the right equipment because you got to remember even the shop may have to take off the PCU at some point the shop I have has the right equipment I seen the code come up and disappear once he erased it so in fact I could make it go completely back to stock like nothing happened but speaking with the dealers today it is a three month waiting list for a stock Super charger and this is where my concern comes in they go back stock or to upgrade to a magazine

 

[Xylander]

Yes it is true that has a hidden code P1400
But like all car manufacturers there is a way to remove the code you just have to have the right equipment because you got to remember even the shop may have to take off the PCU at some point the shop I have has the right equipment I seen the code come up and disappear once he erased it so in fact I could make it go completely back to stock like nothing happened but speaking with the dealers today it is a three month waiting list for a stock Super charger and this is where my concern comes in they go back stock or to upgrade to a magazine

Well, the P1400 code isn't caused solely by the PCM/PCU. It's a code that pops up when the system detects an abnormality, and this code is shared and copied across all of the major modules that have some form of on-board data storage. Thus, the PCM, TCM, throttle, stability control, and about a dozen other sensors maintain the existence of the P1400 code. So, yes, you can clear the P1400 from the PCM but it will reappear as there is no way to get rid of it permanently. Dodge has never released the full breakdown of the logical pathway in the vehicle system that pertains to how exactly the code is stored. But, what I've seen and know that it's stored in many locations. If you swap the PCM from a modified back to the original PCM, the P1400 code clears and reappears in about 5 minutes. I know from experience. Even then, when your car communicates OTA (over the air) via a UConnect update or a vehicle status update, it uploads a copy of the diagnostic files to Dodge (Ford does the same thing). So, again, assuming you can eliminate the P1400, Dodge already has a copy on your car's VIN that says the P1400 is there. They likely got the file the first time you fired the car up after making the modification if there's an open WiFi around or if you have the car paired with your cell phone.

Dodge service techs MAY be able to remove the P1400 in cases where the PCM may have gone bad and it was replaced. From what I understand, they actually don't do it themselves, instead, they upchannel a service ticket to the Dodge team responsible for data management and they correct the P1400 on the network end, then push an update to your car to clear it out with an admin level command function (I got this data from the service manager at my local Dodge dealer a few years back).

And, with respect, I wouldn't trust a shop that says they can clear the P1400 right after they blew your engine up because they don't understand how these cars work. That's because the P1400 code is generated initially by the hardware change, but in perpetuity by a software script running from a cloud data center in somewhere like Texas with offshore backups 2-3 locations around the world. So, for your shop to actually clear the P1400 permanently, they'd have to be Russian hackers.

And, I've checked into this as well. What if you disable the car's internet wifi receiver so it can never receive or connect for updates? Heh, that throws a P1400 code too.

 

[JeffSuperstock2020]

Well, the P1400 code isn't caused solely by the PCM/PCU. It's a code that pops up when the system detects an abnormality, and this code is shared and copied across all of the major modules that have some form of on-board data storage. Thus, the PCM, TCM, throttle, stability control, and about a dozen other sensors maintain the existence of the P1400 code. So, yes, you can clear the P1400 from the PCM but it will reappear as there is no way to get rid of it permanently. Dodge has never released the full breakdown of the logical pathway in the vehicle system that pertains to how exactly the code is stored. But, what I've seen and know that it's stored in many locations. If you swap the PCM from a modified back to the original PCM, the P1400 code clears and reappears in about 5 minutes. I know from experience. Even then, when your car communicates OTA (over the air) via a UConnect update or a vehicle status update, it uploads a copy of the diagnostic files to Dodge (Ford does the same thing). So, again, assuming you can eliminate the P1400, Dodge already has a copy on your car's VIN that says the P1400 is there. They likely got the file the first time you fired the car up after making the modification if there's an open WiFi around or if you have the car paired with your cell phone.

Dodge service techs MAY be able to remove the P1400 in cases where the PCM may have gone bad and it was replaced. From what I understand, they actually don't do it themselves, instead, they upchannel a service ticket to the Dodge team responsible for data management and they correct the P1400 on the network end, then push an update to your car to clear it out with an admin level command function (I got this data from the service manager at my local Dodge dealer a few years back).

And, with respect, I wouldn't trust a shop that says they can clear the P1400 right after they blew your engine up because they don't understand how these cars work. That's because the P1400 code is generated initially by the hardware change, but in perpetuity by a software script running from a cloud data center in somewhere like Texas with offshore backups 2-3 locations around the world. So, for your shop to actually clear the P1400 permanently, they'd have to be Russian hackers.

And, I've checked into this as well. What if you disable the car's internet wifi receiver so it can never receive or connect for updates? Heh, that throws a P1400 code too.

Listen at this point you’re starting to sound like a conspiracy theory Dodge is not that advance P1400 code is actually stored in seven locations and yes it could be uploaded by you connect but once you remove it he gets upload it again as removed the shop I have has the admin‘s password the reason they blew the motor was because I pushed them to do some thing they didn’t want to but this isn’t the CIA it’s Dodge and the fact of the matter is even if your car throws a P1400 everything is fixable if you have the right technician the people I work with was Dodge certified so they know where the code is and they know how to remove don’t believe everything someone tells you have to see it for your own eyes don’t be scared no one‘s following you neither at the end of the day it’s a car Dodge not gonna invest thousands of dollars into investigating what you’re doing with it

 

[vrwebster]

"Discontinuing Mopar"...........................LMFAO.

 

[Slowpoke387]

Holy hell, use a period here and there. This definitely isn’t the CIA but I’m a grammar police cadet lol. Soon to graduate though. It’s actually hard to know what you’re saying because everything is just running on and on. Your car is not limited, Mopar is not going away and neither is your code unless you know the CIA FBI FCA secret decoder ring engineer. And if you do I don't want to know about it, shhh they’re listening…