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Okay, that would be a plus if that's the case.
Then again, animals tend to make more logical decisions than many drivers do. Of course, vehicles usually don't come onto the road from ditches, so they're easier to avoid.
 
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I didn't get the extra safety packages on my wrangler. also going to skip it on my redeye. Pluses and minuses. Simpler is better for me. Long-term use. Less computer nannies the better. If it's going to be standard I can always get a car with it later but you'll never be able to get one without it again.
 

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I'm assuming its the same as the front collision avoidance system on my Ram. If so it works pretty well. It has saved me from someone that cut in front of me then stopped.
 

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Hey everybody. I've been lurking for a little while because I've got a hellcat on my mind. Been interested in what 2021 would bring since I'll likely be buying then. Ran across this in another forum. Hopefully I'm not posting something you guys have already seen. 2021 Challenger Fact Sheet

2021 Dodge Challenger / Challenger SRT Fact Sheet
September 1, 2020 , Auburn Hills, Mich. - The Dodge Challenger is the world’s quickest, fastest and most powerful muscle car. While the record-setting Dodge Challenger SRT Demon was and will remain a one-year, limited-production build, the Dodge Challenger SRT Super Stock is born from its successes and, for 2021 model year, is the halo of the Challenger lineup, out-performing the competition in the modern horsepower wars.

The Dodge Challenger SRT Super Stock is powered by the same supercharged 6.2-liter HEMI® high-output V-8 that powers the Challenger SRT Hellcat Redeye with a revised powertrain calibration that increases rated power output to an 807 horsepower.

To make this the world’s newest ultimate drag-racing muscle car, the Challenger SRT Super Stock features:
  • A uniquely tuned Bilstein high-performance adaptive damping suspension
  • Brembo four-piston high-performance brakes
  • 18-by-11-inch wheels in Low Gloss Granite finish
  • Sticky 315/40R18 Nitto NT05R street-legal drag radials at all four corners
The SRT Super Stock’s revised powertrain rating, combined with its larger, stickier standard Nitto drag radials combine to make the Challenger SRT Super Stock do what it does better than any other muscle car on the market: run 0-60 miles per hour (mph) in 3.25 seconds and cover the quarter-mile in an elapsed time (ET) of 10.5 seconds, making it the world’s quickest and most powerful muscle car.

With the industry’s most powerful and capable muscle car lineup, the Dodge Challenger delivers nine distinct models options from the most powerful and fastest muscle car – the 807-horsepower SRT Super Stock – to 303-horsepower, V-6 efficiency and class-exclusive all-wheel-drive (AWD) capability on SXT and GT models. The 2021 Dodge Challenger offers a full range of engine options, including the award-winning 3.6-liter Pentastar V-6 on SXT, SXT AWD, GT and GT AWD models, the legendary 5.7-liter HEMI V-8 on R/T models, the naturally aspirated 392 HEMI V-8 on R/T Scat Pack models, which offers the most muscle for the dollar, the supercharged 6.2-liter HEMI V-8 on SRT Hellcat and a supercharged 6.2-liter HEMI high-output V-8 on SRT Hellcat Redeye and new SRT Super Stock.

The Dodge Challenger is unrivaled when it comes to sheer horsepower, performance options and packages, all-weather capability and overall interior roominess. The Challenger is a true GT car, and its heritage design, unmatched power and everyday livability make this authentic yet modern muscle car even more popular in today’s golden age of muscle as it was back in 1970 and 1971.

New for 2021:
  • 20-inch wheels now standard on GT AWD, available on SXT AWD
  • New instrument panel badge on SRT Hellcat models
  • SRT branding on high-performance Brembo brakes on SRT Hellcat and SRT Hellcat Redeye, available on Scat Pack
  • New Black Chrome grille, spoiler and fender badge finish on SRT Hellcat Redeye, SRT Super Stock
  • Memory feature for driver seat, steering column, side mirrors and radio presets available on all models
Highlights:
  • The 807-horsepower Dodge Challenger SRT Super Stock is the world’s quickest and most powerful muscle car:
    • 0-60 mph acceleration of 3.25 seconds
    • Quarter-mile elapsed time of 10.5 seconds at 131 mph
    • 168 mph top speed (tire-limited)
  • The heart of Challenger SRT Super Stock comes from the limited-production 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon:
    • Powered by the most powerful production V-8 engine, the Challenger SRT Super Stock’s supercharged 6.2-liter HEMI high-output V-8 features a revised powertrain calibration that increases rated power output to 807 horsepower by increasing the shift point from 6,300 rpm to 6,400 rpm
    • The SRT Super Stock is equipped with the standard TorqueFlite 8HP90 eight-speed automatic transmission – an already proven and robust gearbox used on all Hellcat models and the SRT Demon
    • The Bilstein adaptive damping suspension has been tuned for drag racing, shifting as much weight as possible on the rear tires at launch for maximum traction
    • SRT Super Stock features lightweight all-aluminum Brembo four-piston brake calipers and 14.2-inch vented rotors
    • Challenger SRT Super Stock is equipped with standard lightweight 18-by-11-inch wheels in Low Gloss Granite finish, riding on the same sticky 315/40R18 Nitto NT05R drag radials that were first featured on the SRT Demon
    • Performance-tuned asymmetrical limited-slip differential with 3.09 final drive
    • Track mode within the SRT Drive Modes on the SRT Super Stock will activate a revised shock tuning for the drag radials
    • SRT Race Options – Line Lock, Launch Control, Power Chiller, Race Cooldown and Torque Reserve all come standard on the SRT Super Stock
  • Challenger offers a full range of engine options for 2021, including:
    • Award-winning 3.6-liter Pentastar V-6 with 303 horsepower in SXT, SXT AWD, GT and GT AWD models
    • Legendary 5.7-liter HEMI V-8 with up to 375 horsepower in R/T models
    • Naturally aspirated 392 HEMI V-8 with 485 horsepower in R/T Scat Pack and Scat Pack Widebody models
    • Supercharged 6.2-liter HEMI V-8 with 717 horsepower in SRT Hellcat models
    • Supercharged 6.2-liter HEMI high-output V-8 with 797 horsepower in SRT Hellcat Redeye models
    • Supercharged 6.2-liter HEMI high-output V-8 with unique calibration to make 807 horsepower on SRT Super Stock
  • Standard Tremec six-speed manual transmission standard on the R/T, R/T Scat Pack and SRT Hellcat models
  • Efficient TorqueFlite eight-speed automatic transmission standard on SXT, SXT AWD, GT, GT AWD, SRT Hellcat Redeye and SRT Super Stock models; optional on R/T, R/T Scat Pack and SRT Hellcat models
    • Proven and robust heavy-duty TorqueFlite 8HP90 eight-speed automatic transmission standard on SRT Hellcat Redeye and SRT Super Stock; optional on SRT Hellcat
  • Active Exhaust is standard on all HEMI V-8 models: All 5.7-liter HEMI V-8 Challenger models feature a 2.75-inch electronically controlled active exhaust system to deliver a signature Dodge muscle-car sound
  • Standard SRT Drive Modes on R/T Scat Pack and SRT Hellcat models allow drivers to tailor their driving experience by controlling horsepower (SRT Hellcat models), transmission shift schedules, steering, paddle shifters (automatic transmission), traction and suspension. Drive Modes are pre-configured for Sport, Track and Default modes, while Custom mode lets drivers tailor the drive experience to their favorite settings
  • Available Plus Package adds numerous premium interior and exterior features across the entire Challenger lineup, including heated and ventilated leather seats, power tilt/telescope steering column, unique wheels and, new for 2021, memory feature for driver seat, steering column, side mirrors and radio presets
  • Available Widebody Package, on R/T Scat Pack, SRT Hellcat and SRT Hellcat Redeye models, adds 3.5 inches of overall width, rides on sticky 305/35ZR20 Pirelli tires mounted to 20-by-11-inch wheels and includes electric power steering (EPS) system with SRT Drive Modes:
    • R/T Scat Pack Widebody features larger adaptive damping suspension, Brembo six-piston brakes, performance shift indicator and 20-by-11-inch aluminum wheels
    • SRT Hellcat Widebody and SRT Hellcat Redeye Widebody models feature standard 20-by-11-inch wheels
  • The Challenger R/T Scat Pack 1320, named for the quarter-mile distance of 1,320 feet, features exclusive drag-strip technology from the iconic Dodge Challenger SRT Demon. Powered by the 392 HEMI V-8 engine that delivers 485 horsepower and 475 lb.-ft. of torque, the R/T Scat Pack 1320 is a drag-oriented, street-legal muscle car and a blank canvas for the serious grassroots drag racer:
    • With a quarter-mile ET of 11.70 seconds at 115 mph, the showroom-stock Challenger R/T Scat Pack 1320 is the fastest naturally aspirated, street-legal muscle car available
    • Drag-specific components and technologies include TransBrake, Torque Reserve, Nexen SUR4G Drag Spec 275/40R20 street-legal drag radials, SRT-tuned three-mode adaptive damping suspension, Drag Mode, driver’s seat only standard configuration, performance-tuned asymmetrical limited-slip differential with 3.09 final drive, extreme-duty 41-spline rear axle half shafts, Line Lock, Launch Assist and Brembo high-performance brakes
  • T/A Package adds even more heritage to R/T and R/T Scat Pack models with visual and performance enhancements inside and out, featuring painted Satin Black hood, Satin Black wrapped roof and decklid, 20-inch wheels, Satin Black spoiler with T/A decal, Mopar cold-air intake system, lit Air Catcher headlamps and white face gauges with Gloss Black cluster trim rings
  • Shaker Package, available on R/T and R/T Scat Pack models, includes Mopar Shaker hood and cold-air intake, "Shaker" underhood decal, "Challenger" script grille badge (R/T), black rear spoiler (R/T), black fuel door (R/T), black grille surround (R/T), “Shaker” instrument panel badge and Gloss Black instrument panel cluster trim rings
  • Rear Seat Delete Group removes rear seating, rear seat belts and adds rear cargo net on R/T Scat Pack and SRT Hellcat models
  • Wide variety of exterior stripe designs are available across the entire Challenger lineup
  • More than 70 available safety and security features, including Forward Collision Warning, adaptive cruise control, Blind-spot Monitoring and Rear Cross Path detection
Model Lineup
For 2021, the Dodge Challenger lineup consists of nine models:
  • SXT
  • SXT AWD
  • GT
  • GT AWD
  • R/T
  • R/T Scat Pack (available with Widebody)
  • SRT Hellcat (available with Widebody)
  • SRT Hellcat Redeye (available with Widebody)
  • SRT Super Stock (Widebody only)
Available Exterior Colors:
  • Frostbite
  • F8 Green
  • Go Mango
  • Granite
  • Hellraisin
  • Indigo Blue
  • Octane Red
  • Pitch Black
  • Sinamon Stick
  • Smoke Show
  • TorRed
  • Triple Nickel
  • White Knuckle
Available Interior Colors:
  • Black
  • Black/Caramel
  • Black/Ruby Red
  • Demonic Red
  • Sepia
Awesome offering but I decided to stay with the Redeye configuration for 2021. I have it ordered and await. Went Red, Black paint hood-top-trunk, rear seat delete and 3:09..
 

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I didn't get the extra safety packages on my wrangler. also going to skip it on my redeye. Pluses and minuses. Simpler is better for me. Long-term use. Less computer nannies the better. If it's going to be standard I can always get a car with it later but you'll never be able to get one without it again.
Not missing much there. I had all that on my 2018 T/A. The forward collision alert was outright useless. It would randomly go off at the weirdest times. Sure, it would also go off at the right times, but for me, it seemed it would false positive 5:1 over the actual positive.

The adaptive cruise was neat, but I rarely used it. Think about it. To use adaptive cruise, you have to be close enough to someone in front of you to eat rock chips on your hood/bumper... so would just end up passing people anyway. Then, if someone cut into your lane, the car would slam on brakes to open up the adaptive distance... which was sometimes really unsettling.

I didn't get that package on my Hellcat, so no giant plastic eyeball in my lower grille.
 

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Not missing much there. I had all that on my 2018 T/A. The forward collision alert was outright useless. It would randomly go off at the weirdest times. Sure, it would also go off at the right times, but for me, it seemed it would false positive 5:1 over the actual positive.

The adaptive cruise was neat, but I rarely used it. Think about it. To use adaptive cruise, you have to be close enough to someone in front of you to eat rock chips on your hood/bumper... so would just end up passing people anyway. Then, if someone cut into your lane, the car would slam on brakes to open up the adaptive distance... which was sometimes really unsettling.

I didn't get that package on my Hellcat, so no giant plastic eyeball in my lower grille.
My thoughts exactly to a T. Had it on my ‘15 SRT. Drove me nuts. Was basically a false alarm/heart attack machine. Hard pass on that.
 

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My thoughts exactly to a T. Had it on my ‘15 SRT. Drove me nuts. Was basically a false alarm/heart attack machine. Hard pass on that.
Wife has it on the 17 Scat Pack Charger and it would hit the brakes until I shut that feature off.Dodge needs to work on there system. A guy on a Bicycle on the sidewalk set it off the other day.
 

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I wonder what is the next step? Limiting all cars to a 55mph to speed?

For our safety

Then reducing power to 100hp

For our safety

Then making all cars illegal

For our safetey

Then making breathing illegal

For our safety.

If the manufacturers cared about safety, disk brakes on all four wheels would have been mandatory since 1964.

It isn't about safety. It's about maximizing profits. Want more safety? Put better and bigger tires on the cars, no Pirelli GreaseZeros.

Why wasn't ABS mandatory since Mercedes made the technology available, for free, to everyone? (Yes, they did that, but it was not immediately adopted.

For our safety.

For our safety, they want to "defund the police."

For our safety, they want to make it so we can't shoot back at them.

For our safety, they put Japanese AMERICANS in prison camps in WWII.

For our safety, they fought to keep slavery legal.

No, thanks. I will take care of my own safety. Some of you may eagerly anticipate cars what make it so you can text and drive without consequence. I do not.

Do you realize that a beach ball covered in aluminum paint, rolled across a major freeway could cause the entire freeway to grind to a halt? (radar reflective)

Do you realize that with a correctly-tuned radar gun, you could cause cars to slam on the brakes?

Quit relinquishing your freedoms in the name of your new god, Safety.
 

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I wonder what is the next step? Limiting all cars to a 55mph to speed?

For our safety

Then reducing power to 100hp

For our safety

Then making all cars illegal

For our safetey

Then making breathing illegal

For our safety.

If the manufacturers cared about safety, disk brakes on all four wheels would have been mandatory since 1964.

It isn't about safety. It's about maximizing profits. Want more safety? Put better and bigger tires on the cars, no Pirelli GreaseZeros.

Why wasn't ABS mandatory since Mercedes made the technology available, for free, to everyone? (Yes, they did that, but it was not immediately adopted.

For our safety.

For our safety, they want to "defund the police."

For our safety, they want to make it so we can't shoot back at them.

For our safety, they put Japanese AMERICANS in prison camps in WWII.

For our safety, they fought to keep slavery legal.

No, thanks. I will take care of my own safety. Some of you may eagerly anticipate cars what make it so you can text and drive without consequence. I do not.

Do you realize that a beach ball covered in aluminum paint, rolled across a major freeway could cause the entire freeway to grind to a halt? (radar reflective)

Do you realize that with a correctly-tuned radar gun, you could cause cars to slam on the brakes?

Quit relinquishing your freedoms in the name of your new god, Safety.
So, in celebration of your freedoms, are you going to install drum brakes on your Hellcat? These Brembo disk brakes give the safety god more power.

Pointless post.

Return to topic please.

Has anyone spotted any 2021 pics yet? I'm curious on the black chrome appearance changes.
 

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T/A is a mistake. If it weighed 3116 lbs and was normally aspirated and geared for track days then I would consider one. T/A stickers does not make a Trans Am car.
 

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Well, the T/A does have some unique gear. Lowered suspension, 3.90:1 rear diff final gear, factory Mopar CAI. There is some functional bits, but yes, it is still mostly a heritage appearance package. I liked how my 2018 392 T/A drove. It had a more raked/lowered appearance than other Challengers and the A8 with the 3.90 was able to pull sub 4 second 0-60s. And yes, my car came factory with the 3.90 and the A8 trans.
 

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No A8 with 3.90 392 on T/A, it's a 3.09 like Scat Pack.

And don't believe the suspension is lowered either, again it's probably exactly like Scat Pack.


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So, in celebration of your freedoms, are you going to install drum brakes on your Hellcat? These Brembo disk brakes give the safety god more power.

Pointless post.

Return to topic please.
That’s pretty abrasive lol. Brembos or not has zero to do with software that sets off false alarms and applies whatever brakes you have without actual reason or user input. More nannies doesnt automatically equate to safer.
Def not pointless, it directly applies to the newer Hellcats and is listed on the fact sheet in this thread as well.
 

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No manual on the Redeye or Super Stock...boooo
  • Standard Tremec six-speed manual transmission standard on the R/T, R/T Scat Pack and SRT Hellcat models
 

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No A8 with 3.90 392 on T/A, it's a 3.09 like Scat Pack.

And don't believe the suspension is lowered either, again it's probably exactly like Scat Pack.


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The T/A is factory lowered and has an entirely different suspension setup. It's a fixed setup, unlike the Scat Pack. My car was an A8 with the 3.90. It was on the window sticker. I'd show it to ya, but I sold it and the window sticker went with the car. I don't know if it was a dealer installed option or what, but it most definitely had the 3.90 rear axle gear. Plus, the T/A had a staggered lowering kit, note the rake in the photo. This was a 2018 T/A 392 A8 factory car, I never did anything to it other than add the red pinstripe. My T/A would scrape coming out of my driveway if I didn't leave on an angle. My Hellcat has more clearance and has never scraped the bottom of the splitter once. In the below, both cars are sitting on level surfaces:

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The T/A is factory lowered and has an entirely different suspension setup. It's a fixed setup, unlike the Scat Pack. My car was an A8 with the 3.90. It was on the window sticker. I'd show it to ya, but I sold it and the window sticker went with the car. I don't know if it was a dealer installed option or what, but it most definitely had the 3.90 rear axle gear. Plus, the T/A had a staggered lowering kit, note the rake in the photo. This was a 2018 T/A 392 A8 factory car, I never did anything to it other than add the red pinstripe. My T/A would scrape coming out of my driveway if I didn't leave on an angle. My Hellcat has more clearance and has never scraped the bottom of the splitter once. In the below, both cars are sitting on level surfaces:

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Ok, I guess we'd have to check the spring codes, Dodge lists the all the 392 cars at the same height and ground clearance, but definitely looks pretty low.

On the window sticker, that has been a thorn in their side for years. They list the standard options on the left side and the 3.90 is standard because the M6 is standard. But as soon as you order the optional A8 the standard 3.90 gears get swapped out for a set of 3.09's. So it's just the goofy way FCA continues to print these window stickers.

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