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Will never understand why all the M6 haters like to come into threads that are very obviously meant for people interested in a manual transmission car.

I'll argue that if you know how to drive a manual car properly that your clutch will live just fine on the street. Start adding drag radials and going to the track, yeah it's going to be an issue but in stock form, it's fine.
I had an m6. After getting an a8 car I’m never going back
 

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The M6 I owned just didn't operate properly. It would sometimes want to go 1st to 4th AT THE STRIP. It did it twice in one night on me and I traded the car in the very next Monday as a result. I didn't feel like going through the whole, "We can't find an issue..." problem with the dealership. I owned the car for about 14 months and that transmission, as I mentioned, was just bad. IT had under 20k on it... 2014 SRT8. It was that car that led me to try an A8 for the first time, as prior to that I was a manual only driver.

I prefer the A8 in the Hellcat. However, if Dodge had even a marginally passable M6 on offer, I'd consider it. But, they don't so it's A8 for me without any complaints.
 

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I’ve driven both and my personal experience is that neither are perfect (what is?) but both are very good fun.

I applaud Dodge for offering both. Both are so good id happily have one of each. But if it’s one or the other? The M6 is the easy choice for me. 😀
 

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For the skip shift, either learn to drive the car to prevent it (it's actually simple to do) or spend $20 on a kit to eliminate it.

The auto is faster argument coming in 3......2.......1.......

Maybe one day we can have a manual thread without the same old constant BS dumped into it. Just maybe, one day some people will understand some people don't care about speed and care more about fun and the M6 is more fun for a certain type of person. Not everyone but their are still some of us old dinosaurs out their that prefer it. Cause if speed is all I cared about I WOULD NOT have bought a hellcat. Couple years ago we could brag but their are several cars out their faster than HC's for less money.
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Your 2016 R/T doesn't make half the final wheel horsepower that ours do in eco mode. It has a weaker transmission and the engines we're talking about have more than double the torque and power of your R/T. The Hellcat M6 has been a dog since its inception and has been categorically proven to not be up to the task, hence part of why they yanked it. As for being hard on it or not... just driving a 4,500+lb monster with 653 lb.ft. of torque is stress enough to instantly grenade the transmission in a Toyota 86. The application matters. In addition, there's a different clutch in the M6 for the Hellcat, not to mention different guts.

Of course, the above doesn't even touch on the skip-shift "feature" that likes to insert itself when it isn't supposed to. I've driven a lot of M6s in my day, but I would rather drive the stick in a deuce-and-a-half than ever drive the Tremec TR-6060 ever again. Hands down it receives my reward for one of the worst manual transmissions pretty much ever put into a car. It's sloppy, weak, doesn't do any service to the fine vehicle it's strapped to.
Why are you even in this thread?? Its about manual transmissions, which you obviously have never driven one
 

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Will never understand why all the M6 haters like to come into threads that are very obviously meant for people interested in a manual transmission car.

I'll argue that if you know how to drive a manual car properly that your clutch will live just fine on the street. Start adding drag radials and going to the track, yeah it's going to be an issue but in stock form, it's fine.
We m6ers will get the last laugh, when we can no longer drive and auctions sell our cars for 8x auto price
 

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Your 2016 R/T doesn't make half the final wheel horsepower that ours do in eco mode. It has a weaker transmission and the engines we're talking about have more than double the torque and power of your R/T. The Hellcat M6 has been a dog since its inception and has been categorically proven to not be up to the task, hence part of why they yanked it. As for being hard on it or not... just driving a 4,500+lb monster with 653 lb.ft. of torque is stress enough to instantly grenade the transmission in a Toyota 86. The application matters. In addition, there's a different clutch in the M6 for the Hellcat, not to mention different guts.

Of course, the above doesn't even touch on the skip-shift "feature" that likes to insert itself when it isn't supposed to. I've driven a lot of M6s in my day, but I would rather drive the stick in a deuce-and-a-half than ever drive the Tremec TR-6060 ever again. Hands down it receives my reward for one of the worst manual transmissions pretty much ever put into a car. It's sloppy, weak, doesn't do any service to the fine vehicle it's strapped to.
You make some very good points. I've obviously never tried an M6 hellcat and am here to learn more about it before making any type of purchase :) I just find my r/t M6 very fun to drive and would love to carry it over to a hellcat, even if it may cost a little more in maintenance in the long term. But, you've def made me think a little more on an m6 vs a8

Alas, it's all moot unless Dodge actually starts producing them, which I am hopeful since it's specc'd on their website.
 

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You make some very good points. I've obviously never tried an M6 hellcat and am here to learn more about it before making any type of purchase :) I just find my r/t M6 very fun to drive and would love to carry it over to a hellcat, even if it may cost a little more in maintenance in the long term. But, you've def made me think a little more on an m6 vs a8

Alas, it's all moot unless Dodge actually starts producing them, which I am hopeful since it's specc'd on their website.
My advice, test drive them. Find an M6, go nuts. Find an A8 and drive it in auto and in manual mode with the autostick. The autostick sold me on the A8.
 

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The M6 I owned just didn't operate properly. It would sometimes want to go 1st to 4th AT THE STRIP. It did it twice in one night on me and I traded the car in the very next Monday as a result. I didn't feel like going through the whole, "We can't find an issue..." problem with the dealership. I owned the car for about 14 months and that transmission, as I mentioned, was just bad. IT had under 20k on it... 2014 SRT8. It was that car that led me to try an A8 for the first time, as prior to that I was a manual only driver.

I prefer the A8 in the Hellcat. However, if Dodge had even a marginally passable M6 on offer, I'd consider it. But, they don't so it's A8 for me without any complaints.
Did the 14 SRT8 have the same transmission as the hellcat? Something definitely defective if you got the skip shift at the track and I know the feeling about messing with dealerships on hard to repeat issues. All I know is my 15 M6 and my Viper share basically the same transmission (slightly different gearing) and both shift great. Not like my Miata did (but most cars don't) but better than my current Roush Mustang. Also owned a Terminator Cobra and my HC M6 performs about like it did.

I will say my HC was a bit notchy but swapped fluid to what gomango recommended and it's buttery smooth now.
 
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Oh I’m sure the trans had problems. It was just one of those no code, hard to replicate problems the dealer would have said is “working as intended.”
 

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For the skip shift, either learn to drive the car to prevent it (it's actually simple to do) or spend $20 on a kit to eliminate it.

The auto is faster argument coming in 3......2.......1.......

Maybe one day we can have a manual thread without the same old constant BS dumped into it. Just maybe, one day some people will understand some people don't care about speed and care more about fun and the M6 is more fun for a certain type of person. Not everyone but their are still some of us old dinosaurs out their that prefer it. Cause if speed is all I cared about I WOULD NOT have bought a hellcat. Couple years ago we could brag but their are several cars out their faster than HC's for less money.
I really don’t appreciate you beating me to the argument that autos are faster. Lol.
 

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I really don’t appreciate you beating me to the argument that autos are faster. Lol.
They're not just faster, they are CONSIDERABLY faster. 3 car lengths at the strip level of faster. If you want a Hellcat that has to actually fight against a stock Mustang GT on E85, go M6 :)
 

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Did the 14 SRT8 have the same transmission as the hellcat? Something definitely defective if you got the skip shift at the track and I know the feeling about messing with dealerships on hard to repeat issues. All I know is my 15 M6 and my Viper share basically the same transmission (slightly different gearing) and both shift great. Not like my Miata did (but most cars don't) but better than my current Roush Mustang. Also owned a Terminator Cobra and my HC M6 performs about like it did.

I will say my HC was a bit notchy but swapped fluid to what gomango recommended and it's buttery smooth now.
What fluid did you switch to?
 

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Just my 2cents as I have driven both. The M6 is fun to drive and as far as drag racing at a track, that is why they have bracket racing with your cars dial in time vs say the A8, that may have a lesser dial in, and be quicker, but it is in the drivers hands at bracket racing. Years ago a very accomplished drag racer was quoted as saying "without a clutch, even your grandmother can launch it"!
 

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I don't give a **** about autos being faster. Every damn thread about the future of the M6 is filled with these auto guys and the conversation always turns to this. Fun fact - we don't care and you'll never sway us. Spend your energy typing about something else. If I wanted to drive something faster than a M6 hellcat, I'm not going with an auto hellcat! I'd be driving something completely different so speed is irrelevant regarding this topic. We enjoy these cars for what they are in their M6 form. Keep your "faster than..." BS out.
 

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What fluid did you switch to?
Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF is what he recommended and what I used. Honestly, anything @16GoManGoHC suggest or says I really listen to. He's done a lot more than I ever will with his M6 HC. He said it was good so I pulled the trigger. Happy so far.


They're not just faster, they are CONSIDERABLY faster. 3 car lengths at the strip level of faster. If you want a Hellcat that has to actually fight against a stock Mustang GT on E85, go M6 :)
If it's on E85 it isn't exactly stock now is it? Needs at min a tune but to be hellcat fast and done right you need some supporting mods (like injectors at least). Do the same stuff to the HC and what's going to happen? Either way, I think some of you put to much stock in penis measuring. Got over all that dumb shit in my early 20's. You quickly learn that speed is just money and your pocketbook determines more about how fast you can go than what car you decide to start with. In my mid 40's now so I buy cars that I enjoy driving. I have a Mustang to and like it but you buy those two cars for different reasons.
 
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