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simple business 101.. see product in demand. sell most with expensive options bundled .allowing little wiggle room by consumer..
Its not offered in a base trim - its not even available to dealers to order that way. Only Plus and Premium.I've got the list.. and I've called.. give it a shot. Not a single one can get ya a base trim that ive been in contact with (and it hasnt been ajsut a few)..
Vaporware.
Base trims for all Durango models were going to be late availability, but then again they said the DDHC was going to be late availability and a few have been produced already. That was announced from the get-go in dealer training, but very few pass that information onto customers. As @frictioncircle mentioned it is all about the business. Reduce order complexity to minimize order disruptions and maximize profit. Not bad for a vehicle model that has been around since 2011. Dodge knows folks will pay to play and they also know this will piss a smaller % of folks off too.Its not offered in a base trim - its not even available to dealers to order that way. Only Plus and Premium.
Agree on all fronts. Dodge also said that we would have stage kits a year ago, see car 7 in November, keep the dealer locator up to date, 2021 was the only year for the DDHC…but until it’s available, it’s not. This is the 4th post in 10 days asking the same question. The simple answer is - it’s only available in plus and premium…nothing has changed. Asking the boards to all crystal ball this every other day is silly. So is the idea that because dodge said it we should believe it.Base trims for all Durango models were going to be late availability, but then again they said the DDHC was going to be late availability and a few have been produced already. That was announced from the get-go in dealer training, but very few pass that information onto customers. As @frictioncircle mentioned it is all about the business. Reduce order complexity to minimize order disruptions and maximize profit. Not bad for a vehicle model that has been around since 2011. Dodge knows folks will pay to play and they also know this will piss a smaller % of folks off too.
Nobody is reading from Dodge…. Hell you can direct message any of their team with anything you want and no one is going to see it at Dodge. They sold out to Stellantis and now we are watching Dodge die in slow motion.As an owner of a 2021 DDHC I’d like to say to anyone at dodge reading F-U ! 😂 glad you guys were able to get your dream car but dodge is a useless lying company I’d never buy another product from again.
One year only means One year only! That’s false advertising by its dealers . Glad I bought a Tesla instead of a second dodge . It’s faster anyway! Just sayin! I wouldn’t care if they said maybe or could be , but I asked for MONTHS to be sure and always got the same answer this will NEVER be built again .guaranteed ! What a joke
yeah I know but you never know whose watching a forum something I’ve learned from other makes forums . I’ve owned all kinds of cars and brands . For those who are falling all over themselves to own a hellcat Durango or any other hellcat variant I dont get it. I took delivery of my telsa plaid after my hellcat . As much as I like my hellcat , I’d have NEVER bought it after getting my Tesla olaid . There’s just no comparison . It embarrasses my hellcat at the track .Nobody is reading from Dodge…. Hell you can direct message any of their team with anything you want and no one is going to see it at Dodge. They sold out to Stellantis and now we are watching Dodge die in slow motion.
Please don’t mistake my views on Dodge here as being EV vs ICE. Reality is ICE is dead.. government will force it to happen if it doesn’t happen with existing rules in place. Dodge has nothing to offer in EV land… their software is garbage and they clearly have no ability to quickly release fixes (something I would demand/expect from an EV company). When the power plant is the same (EV vs EV) it makes no sense to spend money with Dodge given how they are treating us now. I dropped 100k on my DDHC and Dodge treats me like I bought a snickers bar… at this point I’m only tolerating it because the theatre is so satisfying. The Durango is the slowest Hellcat so I’m certainly not someone who cares about being first or I wouldn’t have bought it. I’ve also spent half my life at the drag-strip so knowing a plaid wouldn’t get me to first place either and I don’t have the deep pockets required to even try being the fastest guy keeps me grounded. 😂yeah I know but you never know whose watching a forum something I’ve learned from other makes forums . I’ve owned all kinds of cars and brands . For those who are falling all over themselves to own a hellcat Durango or any other hellcat variant I dont get it. I took delivery of my telsa plaid after my hellcat . As much as I like my hellcat , I’d have NEVER bought it after getting my Tesla olaid . There’s just no comparison . It embarrasses my hellcat at the track .
life long ICE
Engine guy, lots of the top muscle cars through life, but what I want do is lie to myself or block out something because of it’s tech . Power is power and cars are cars . If it was even close I’d be all over the hellcat over the Tesla but it’s NOT it’s like a whole differnt class and not for much more money anymore.
Dodge is just lucky they don’t have Tesla showrooms where people can test drive a model X plaid or model S plaid cause they are amazing! I bought my hellcat because it was one year only. A promise they made over and over before I bought. Load of bullshit. Scammers at dodge, pathetic the more I think about it and the conversations I had w dodge dealers before I bought the more I realize, this amounts to fraud and Nothing less . And reading how many of you are being treated for new dodges and not getting updates etc nothing has changed .
buy a Tesla and be first to the stripe at the track!! Pay less for power, be stealth as can be, and own a car that truely changed the world not a liberal way (cause elon has proved he is anything but a liberal) in a bad ass, power over everything else way.
I get it you like pistons and superchargers I do to but first ti the stripe is first to the stripe! And getting there 1.5 to 2.5 seconds later SUCKS!
yeah I know but you never know whose watching a forum something I’ve learned from other makes forums . I’ve owned all kinds of cars and brands . For those who are falling all over themselves to own a hellcat Durango or any other hellcat variant I dont get it. I took delivery of my telsa plaid after my hellcat . As much as I like my hellcat , I’d have NEVER bought it after getting my Tesla olaid . There’s just no comparison . It embarrasses my hellcat at the track .Nobody is reading from Dodge…. Hell you can direct message any of their team with anything you want and no one is going to see it at Dodge. They sold out to Stellantis and now we are watching Dodge die in slow motion.
Stock to stock the plaid will get you wayyyy out in front of that DDHC trust me I have both. Model S plaid 9.19! That’ll beat most built muscle cars into submission. Show me anything else stock that’s even close.Please don’t mistake my views on Dodge here as being EV vs ICE. Reality is ICE is dead.. government will force it to happen if it doesn’t happen with existing rules in place. Dodge has nothing to offer in EV land… their software is garbage and they clearly have no ability to quickly release fixes (something I would demand/expect from an EV company). When the power plant is the same (EV vs EV) it makes no sense to spend money with Dodge given how they are treating us now. I dropped 100k on my DDHC and Dodge treats me like I bought a snickers bar… at this point I’m only tolerating it because the theatre is so satisfying. The Durango is the slowest Hellcat so I’m certainly not someone who cares about being first or I wouldn’t have bought it. I’ve also spent half my life at the drag-strip so knowing a plaid wouldn’t get me to first place either and I don’t have the deep pockets required to even try being the fastest guy keeps me grounded. 😂
Is this like trolling or ?? A plaid runs 9s… I barely run 11s (I would be insulted here but you likely just think I’m stupid and inferior to you so I’ll allow it)Stock to stock the plaid will get you wayyyy out in front of that DDHC trust me I have both. Model S plaid 9.19! That’ll beat most built muscle cars into submission. Show me anything else stock that’s even close.
One thing I can say about software is I hate having to page through stuff to turn things on w the Tesla . Give me buttons for the basics and I’m happy.
this could be a place for dodge To get a foothold . But after how they lied about the DDHC I stil woukdnt buy from them . Is still like my DDHC even though it’s slow . What I hate is dodge and it’s dealer network .
I can fly from Florida to Austin, TX in about 2-3 hours. But, it is so much more fun road tripping it in a hot rod. I can cook a steak in the microwave, but it's better on the grill. A $150k car that runs 9s is a terrible value. We've been building 8-9 second Fox Mustangs for 20 years that didn't cost $20,000 to build. Stock is all well and good, but as you say, the first to the stripe wins. For the cost of a new yuppie Plaid, I can build 5 shade tree specials that will beat it. And I don't even have Asperger's Syndrome.yeah I know but you never know whose watching a forum something I’ve learned from other makes forums . I’ve owned all kinds of cars and brands . For those who are falling all over themselves to own a hellcat Durango or any other hellcat variant I dont get it. I took delivery of my telsa plaid after my hellcat . As much as I like my hellcat , I’d have NEVER bought it after getting my Tesla olaid . There’s just no comparison . It embarrasses my hellcat at the track .
I get it you like pistons and superchargers I do to but first ti the stripe is first to the stripe! And getting there 1.5 to 2.5 seconds later SUC
Stock to stock the plaid will get you wayyyy out in front of that DDHC trust me I have both. Model S plaid 9.19! That’ll beat most built muscle cars into submission. Show me anything else stock that’s even close.