[goodmanale]

I thought your dealer didn’t have an allocation. Do you have an order submitted?

Correct, I'm in waiting until they receive their allocation. I am just stating what we agreed on for the order.
Also waiting to see if they will at least try and hit submit without the allocation like previously suggested. Others had some luck, but the whole thing is a mess.

 

[goodmanale]

Well I just spoke to the dealership again on the phone just now, turns out when the orders opened they were given one allocation at that time which the owner bought up immediately which is why they were showing zero when I called a day or two later. Apparently my guy just found out about that owner order.
So he's hoping next week they'll get another allocation for the month of December.

 

[PHX396]

My 2cents on 21 vs 23 is only time will tell. Some will like the fact how we who bought in 21 didn’t have to buy packages and ala carted our selections. We were lucky to get a deal at MSRP last September and my wife altered the order to the selections she wanted. I’m not sure if one year will be more desirable than the other other than color options, think of Ford Lightnings and 03-04 Terminator Cobras.

 

[CWGrizzwold]

Let me put a few things out there for everyone to think about.
1. 2022 has been a continued disaster to try and build anything automotive due to on-going parts and labor shortages. As a result everyone is behind on orders and it has continued to screw up their year-on-year planning for volume. Look how the Durango model year cycle changed in 2021 and went clear to the end of the year. 2022 looks to be in the same boat.
2. 2023 will be more of the same. With final runs for the Charger and Challenger, Dodge will focus a lot of their attention and parts resources on those two products.
3. TRX continues to be a cash cow, much beyond Stellantis' wildest dreams. If they build them, people seem to buy them.
4. No way all of the allocations for 2023 Durango Hellcats have been issued. Based upon how the 2021 DDHC orders/production went I think Dodge was getting a flavor for the DDHC appetite again in 2023 by seeing how fast the initial allocations would disappear even with the ordering constraints (Plus or Premium, same 4 colors as 2022, Black Package, Stripes and 3-season tires as only options). I know of only one person publicly admitting they are waiting for the new colors to be available to order one. I understand the fear Dodge has put into this process of not being able to order one (believe me, most of us lived it in 2021) and folks are ordering one now just to try and get one (even if it isn't exactly what they want).
5. I know folks want to have the last possible Hellcat powered SUV off the line as it might hold value and the like. As it stands right now there is nothing stopping Dodge from continuing the current Durango platform into 2024 as they develop the new design (currently due in 2025). Would the DDHC be available as a 2024 model? Who knows. But you know Tim Kuniskis is going to build as many of these bad boys as he can. He learned his lesson in 2021.
6. Be patient. I know that is a hard thing to hear. We will know more as the 2022 build out continues and Dodge readies for 2023. Heck, Dodge will know more too.
7. Outside of a few new colors and a new fuel system (to meet the evap emissions for 2023), the 2023 DDHC will be identical to the 2021. There are a bunch of 2021 DDHCs hitting the used vehicle market on a weekly basis, most of them at a fair price and some with surprisingly low miles. Used car prices continue to fall. Go find one you like and buy it! Enjoy it now without having to worry about a dealer lying to you about allocations and your order never seeing production as a result. Heck, you will probably avoid the ridiculous markups by buying a used 2021 as well.

 

[Heavymetal454]

Let me put a few things out there for everyone to think about.
1. 2022 has been a continued disaster to try and build anything automotive due to on-going parts and labor shortages. As a result everyone is behind on orders and it has continued to screw up their year-on-year planning for volume. Look how the Durango model year cycle changed in 2021 and went clear to the end of the year. 2022 looks to be in the same boat.
2. 2023 will be more of the same. With final runs for the Charger and Challenger, Dodge will focus a lot of their attention and parts resources on those two products.
3. TRX continues to be a cash cow, much beyond Stellantis' wildest dreams. If they build them, people seem to buy them.
4. No way all of the allocations for 2023 Durango Hellcats have been issued. Based upon how the 2021 DDHC orders/production went I think Dodge was getting a flavor for the DDHC appetite again in 2023 by seeing how fast the initial allocations would disappear even with the ordering constraints (Plus or Premium, same 4 colors as 2022, Black Package, Stripes and 3-season tires as only options). I know of only one person publicly admitting they are waiting for the new colors to be available to order one. I understand the fear Dodge has put into this process of not being able to order one (believe me, most of us lived it in 2021) and folks are ordering one now just to try and get one (even if it isn't exactly what they want).
5. I know folks want to have the last possible Hellcat powered SUV off the line as it might hold value and the like. As it stands right now there is nothing stopping Dodge from continuing the current Durango platform into 2024 as they develop the new design (currently due in 2025). Would the DDHC be available as a 2024 model? Who knows. But you know Tim Kuniskis is going to build as many of these bad boys as he can. He learned his lesson in 2021.
6. Be patient. I know that is a hard thing to hear. We will know more as the 2022 build out continues and Dodge readies for 2023. Heck, Dodge will know more too.
7. Outside of a few new colors and a new fuel system (to meet the evap emissions for 2023), the 2023 DDHC will be identical to the 2021. There are a bunch of 2021 DDHCs hitting the used vehicle market on a weekly basis, most of them at a fair price and some with surprisingly low miles. Used car prices continue to fall. Go find one you like and buy it! Enjoy it now without having to worry about a dealer lying to you about allocations and your order never seeing production as a result. Heck, you will probably avoid the ridiculous markups by buying a used 2021 as well.

As far as getting what everyone wants I’m fine with the opportunity to buy one new since the last time we weren’t looking. Those who ordered early are positioned quite well considering parts shortages will affect those further down the line. Can’t speak for others but if they continue making them in 2024 and beyond that’s fine. I’d rather have the current version than a BOF alternative. Anyone paying ADM should just make some phone calls. There are reputable dealers out there who aren’t trying to make a killing.

 

[Jimmy N.]

I know of only one person publicly admitting they are waiting for the new colors to be available to order one.

Color isn't an issue for me, but I sure hope that by the time mine eventually gets to D status, the order can be changed to a Base model.

Even if the price stays the same as for a Plus, it would be so nice not to get a sun roof, all kinds of electronic nannies, a 3rd row, and red seats.

 

[Heavymetal454]

Color isn't an issue for me, but I sure hope that by the time mine eventually gets to D status, the order can be changed to a Base model.

Even if the price stays the same as for a Plus, it would be so nice not to get a sun roof, all kinds of electronic nannies, a 3rd row, and red seats.

Agreed. I don’t need any of that jazz either but I would have ordered the seats in red just because of the exterior color. Heck you could eliminate the second row too. The new colors look pretty blah to me. I think they wasted their time on those anyway. Fifty shades of gray. SMH

 

[triple_B]

Quick update, I have found 476 DDHC orders now after the new ones so far this week.

 

[Killer Bee 13]

It's kind of hard to believe that any Dodge dealer would want to sell a '23 DDHC for invoice - but what do I know.

 

[DDHC-23]

Quick update, I have found 476 DDHC orders now after the new ones so far this week.

Are we able to track our DDHC orders like you do (I believe) on the the TRX forum?

 

[frictioncircle]

I agree with grizzy. If I was in the market I would look for a low mile 21...because you have more flexibility on options..No sunroof but with everything else was important to me...Having the HC logo on the seats is also more desirable to me than the generic SRT..

 

[Heavymetal454]

Are we able to track our DDHC orders like you do (I believe) on the the TRX forum?

There’s a link to track your order. You just plug in your name and the VON

Dodge Vehicle Order Tracking

See where the dodge vehicle you ordered is in the build process. Track progress from factory to delivery. Order code required.

www.dodge.com

 

[DDHC-23]

There’s a link to track your order. You just plug in your name and the VON

Dodge Vehicle Order Tracking

See where the dodge vehicle you ordered is in the build process. Track progress from factory to delivery. Order code required.

www.dodge.com

Thanks for posting but that tracking site isn't near as accurate as what he's been doing on the TRXs which was awesome.

 

[Heavymetal454]

I agree with grizzy. If I was in the market I would look for a low mile 21...because you have more flexibility on options..No sunroof but with everything else was important to me...Having the HC logo on the seats is also more desirable to me than the generic SRT..

The biggest drawback on a 21 is you really don’t know how they treated it. Why save money on a used car when you can just buy new and feel confident you F’d it up instead. Lol.

 

[Heavymetal454]

Thanks for posting but that tracking site isn't near as accurate as what he's been doing on the TRXs which was awesome.

Agreed, it’s all there is right now. Let your dealer know you want all the POCs or just all them everyday and be a pest. Ha!

 

[frictioncircle]

The biggest drawback on a 21 is you really don’t know how they treated it. Why save money on a used car when you can just buy new and feel confident you F’d it up instead. Lol.

Yea you are either ok with buying used or you aren't.

 

[Jimmy N.]

The biggest drawback on a 21 is you really don’t know how they treated it. Why save money on a used car when you can just buy new and feel confident you F’d it up instead. Lol.

I could buy a new '21 from a dealer near where I used to live, for $125K if memory serves me.

Instead, a '23 at invoice is much more appealing, so that's what I ordered.

 

[Unavowed]

The biggest drawback on a 21 is you really don’t know how they treated it. Why save money on a used car when you can just buy new and feel confident you F’d it up instead. Lol.

Instead, a '23 at invoice is much more appealing, so that's what I ordered.

Why would they sell it to you at invoice if market conditions allow them to sell it to someone else for MSRP or more?

 

[Jimmy N.]

Why would they sell it to you at invoice if market conditions allow them to sell it to someone else for MSRP or more?

Maybe it's because I've bought quite a few vehicles from that dealership, and have become friends with the owner?

 

[Killer Bee 13]

The biggest drawback on a 21 is you really don’t know how they treated it. Why save money on a used car when you can just buy new and feel confident you F’d it up instead. Lol.

I agree 100%. Why would you buy a used '21 when you can order a brand new 2023? Plus, you know that most of these DDHC's have been enjoyed, and you never know what you are going to get buying used. Personally, I don't buy used cars ever, unless they are classics of course