I paid an ADM on my ordered car. The price was OK for this market. I am next in line for the alloc. and I can walk right in to mgt.'s office...with lunch of course. Some dealers are asking 5K to place an order here in CA and there are many at 10K-20K over with cars on the lot. OK Huggy....does your crystal ball still say that MSRP on the lots will be common by this summer? I know you said previously that they are out there now, but seems like few and far between.Whats your forecast?