[huggytree]

all those waiting for a HC should be praying for that 396 Camaro........it will take sales away from the HC and bring prices down and availability up

its going to happen at some point....chevy and Ford arent going to sit around letting Dodge beat them

 

[huggytree]

they would have to up the trans and driveline too....

Dodge doesnt seem to change HP and up things...i think its going to be 707hp for 3 years no matter wha


when the 5.0 came out Dodge didnt up their 392 HP to get ahead....they were happy staying where they were and tying the 5.0 on the drag strip

Ford changes HP every year or every other year on the GT500's.....they are the only company i see who is willing to do it.

It took Dodge 4+ years to get the HC going....they are slow to move, slow to change....i dont see Dodge responding to anyone on a year to year basis

 

[huggytree]

Chrysler never had to up the 6.4L to compete with the 5.0.........It always had more power and still does.......5.0=425 and 6.4=485.......The disadvantage was Price and that will always play a big part between the Mustang and Camaro........

that 5.0 425hp had the same 0-60 and 1/4 mile times as the 392 because it weighs less......and it was 470hp back then too..........Dodge should have done the 485hp upgrade in 2012 to get a bit ahead of the 5.0 instead of being the same 1/4 mile as a car -$15k

 

[huggytree]

I agree with everything you said but it lends to why they would make a 850hp engine and de tune it to 707. At almost no cost to them they can release a flash each year to top the gt500

wasnt the 850 hp a rumor and not even real?

the trans cant handle 850hp
the driveshaft cant handle 708hp
the 275's for tires cant handle 300hp

 

[huggytree]

Ford didnt take very long to go from a 5.4 liter 550hp to a 5.8 liter 662hp....

im sure they have a 800hp twin turbo 5.0 ready to go.....they dont need a new engine

and Fords wont have a gas guzzler tax

Chevy....who knows...dont know why they didnt answer Ford the following year by upping the HP of the ZL1...they have the Vette in the Camaro's way

ive been hearing about this Cafe for a while....i thought the major changes were 2016.....now someone said 2017?...is that date moving?

if Ford wants to beat SRT they can.....they are a larger company with deeper pockets...+ they have the most high tech engines out there....they are years ahead of Dodge and possibly anyone else......love my Challenger, but im not blind thinking Dodge is the greatest

 

[huggytree]

Taurus SHO probably wont be a competitor to the Charger HC....the SHO was never all that impressive