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I’ve been seeing recurring comments in various threads that our cars are not special because “they’re just not that fast anymore”. I don’t know if it’s different where you live, but when I’m on the road in my stock 2021 Challenger Redeye I’m confident that I’m in the top 1% of cars within a one-mile radius of wherever I am at any given moment. Meaning at any time I KNOW I could smoke 99% of cars sharing the road with me.

Is it different where you live?

How do you think your car stacks up?

 

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I drive under the impression that wherever I am at any given moment, someone faster than me could be in the next lane over. 😃 Never know what is under that hood

Point being, the shop I use a dyno for to tune, works on all models, Mustangs, Camaros, Japanese farts, and most have turbos. Given the horsepower to weight ratio they would smack my butt at the strip any day of the week. They all look like plain jane stock cars except for the rear tires.
 
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In the real world, a Hellcat of any trim on the street is faster than 99.9% of cars you will see on the road. For something to be faster than the Hellcats, it has to be exceedingly expensive and/or custom built. On the internet, these cars are everywhere. In reality, they aren't on the road in any appreciable number. For the custom Subarus, Hondas, Mustangs, and Camaros that can compete against a Hellcat, most of them spend more time in the garage replacing parts.
 

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^^^So true. Here in Knox at the 1/8 track, they race on weekends and spend a lot of time in the shop in between. They are deceiving though. With the Hellcat you know what it has at a minimum.
 
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There is a lot of chatter on this board about how electric cars will make the Hellcat irrelevant. I just don’t think this is true. I can’t imagine a future where sub-11 second electric cars are the norm. Even if they could build them, it would always be more profitable and a lower liability risk to make the vast majority of electric cars relatively slow and easy to handle. I’ve read a great deal about the Tesla Plaid and its performance, but I haven’t seen a single one on the street, let alone have one challenge me for an impromptu street race—though I’m not sure how I’d know without the customary revving.
 

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In the real world, a Hellcat of any trim on the street is faster than 99.9% of cars you will see on the road. For something to be faster than the Hellcats, it has to be exceedingly expensive and/or custom built. On the internet, these cars are everywhere. In reality, they aren't on the road in any appreciable number. For the custom Subarus, Hondas, Mustangs, and Camaros that can compete against a Hellcat, most of them spend more time in the garage replacing parts.
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There is a lot of chatter on this board about how electric cars will make the Hellcat irrelevant. I just don’t think this is true. I can’t imagine a future where sub-11 second electric cars are the norm. Even if they could build them, it would always be more profitable and a lower liability risk to make the vast majority of electric cars relatively slow and easy to handle. I’ve read a great deal about the Tesla Plaid and its performance, but I haven’t seen a single one on the street, let alone have one challenge me for an impromptu street race—though I’m not sure how I’d know without the customary revving.
When auto makers are forced to start building EVs for the masses, they won't be making Model S, Model 3, and similar long range, high performance EVs. Honda, Hyundai, and Toyota's in-development EVs are average under 200hp with 250 range. These and similar cars are what will be marketed to the budget minded public. They'll cost somewhere in the high 20s to low 30s.

It's still relatively early in the EV revolution, so most companies are debuting high performance cars to get brand recognition. The Mach-E is one of these (barf) as is the upcoming Dodge. When the government mandates the switch, the majority of cars are going to be Nissan Leaf-like. Small, cramped, low power, moderate ranged cars. They'll have a mid 30s-40s sedan or crossover of some kind as a second trim with a bit more room, maybe a bit more performance, but similar range.

This is assuming technology leaps don't occur. To all the folks who say, "in 10 years things will be cheaper and more efficient." I counter that by saying that the 18650 batteries used in most battery packs and rechargeable devices was developed in 1994. Yet, here we are, 30 years later still using them. Until a new energy storage system is devised, EVs will be low power output, moderate to low range vehicles with around an hour's quick charge time for a partial charge. Because of this, the EVs for the masses are going to be wholly underwhelming. It's going to look a lot like 1975 for a while.
 

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There is a lot of chatter on this board about how electric cars will make the Hellcat irrelevant. I just don’t think this is true. I can’t imagine a future where sub-11 second electric cars are the norm. Even if they could build them, it would always be more profitable and a lower liability risk to make the vast majority of electric cars relatively slow and easy to handle. I’ve read a great deal about the Tesla Plaid and its performance, but I haven’t seen a single one on the street, let alone have one challenge me for an impromptu street race—though I’m not sure how I’d know without the customary revving.
Agreed I’m sure they will offer different trims of power just like usual, you’ll still have to a pay premium dollar to beat hellcats in an EV..as mentioned on this thread all the gossip and hype is on boob tube! not two cars over on the street, 99% of cars on the street are just going from A-B as well as trying to get home from work, but that doesn’t stop them from rolling down their window for an ear full of beast
 

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Speed?

Get caught going over 105 on the street and say goodbye to yer license

As far as acceleration goes that requires TRACTION

Sorry but no 4500 pound car with street tires will ever accelerate well… no matter how much power it has. Never gonna happen…

Can’t believe none of you have tubbed, 4 linked, and stuffed some 17/32 M/T drag radial pros under one of these tanks yet

Come on man…
 

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When auto makers are forced to start building EVs for the masses, they won't be making Model S, Model 3, and similar long range, high performance EVs. Honda, Hyundai, and Toyota's in-development EVs are average under 200hp with 250 range. These and similar cars are what will be marketed to the budget minded public. They'll cost somewhere in the high 20s to low 30s.

It's still relatively early in the EV revolution, so most companies are debuting high performance cars to get brand recognition. The Mach-E is one of these (barf) as is the upcoming Dodge. When the government mandates the switch, the majority of cars are going to be Nissan Leaf-like. Small, cramped, low power, moderate ranged cars. They'll have a mid 30s-40s sedan or crossover of some kind as a second trim with a bit more room, maybe a bit more performance, but similar range.

This is assuming technology leaps don't occur. To all the folks who say, "in 10 years things will be cheaper and more efficient." I counter that by saying that the 18650 batteries used in most battery packs and rechargeable devices was developed in 1994. Yet, here we are, 30 years later still using them. Until a new energy storage system is devised, EVs will be low power output, moderate to low range vehicles with around an hour's quick charge time for a partial charge. Because of this, the EVs for the masses are going to be wholly underwhelming. It's going to look a lot like 1975 for a while.
What color would you like that in??
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In the real world, a Hellcat of any trim on the street is faster than 99.9% of cars you will see on the road. For something to be faster than the Hellcats, it has to be exceedingly expensive and/or custom built. On the internet, these cars are everywhere. In reality, they aren't on the road in any appreciable number. For the custom Subarus, Hondas, Mustangs, and Camaros that can compete against a Hellcat, most of them spend more time in the garage replacing parts.
Xylander can you touch base on needing an experienced driver for high HP cars as a prerequisite…just as a refresher no pressure
 

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^^^ oh wow!! See, it's things like that, that hasn't been thought of yet. What a nightmare. Then, how to you charge all those cars to move them??
Or, with a ICE you had comfort, heat, shelter.....with an EV you have a box. No heat, comfort and no shelter because your battery ran down a couple hours into a 40 hour ordeal you had no way of escaping from. The fact these people could intermittently start, and warm themselves likely save many lives. Thanks to fossil fuels.....
 

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I saw an EV just the other day that ran out of juice and watched the lady go sit in a drug store across the street from where the car sat for a couple of hours until a tow truck showed up for the tow. I over heard her tell someone sitting next to her that the car was out of battery power and was to cold to sitting in the car. This scenario will probably be common more so in the future
 

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You mean like a race for winnings tube chassis car
Well pro street was originally just a style and what they called our back half cars at the street races in California the early 80’s

It ended up becoming a class in the pacific street car association

A car can be back half’d… it doesn’t have to get a full pro mod or pro stock tube chassis

*and the back of these cars is the week link anyways. Starts with the drive shaft and gets worse the further back ya go : )
 

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I’ve been seeing recurring comments in various threads that our cars are not special because “they’re just not that fast anymore”. I don’t know if it’s different where you live, but when I’m on the road in my stock 2021 Challenger Redeye I’m confident that I’m in the top 1% of cars within a one-mile radius of wherever I am at any given moment. Meaning at any time I KNOW I could smoke 99% of cars sharing the road with me.

Is it different where you live?

How do you think your car stacks up?

I see McLarens, Ferrari, GTRs, Lamborghinis, etc weekly if not daily. I’m sure the Hellcat and RedEye are still in the top 1% percent given the rest of the cars on the road are weak but some areas are going to have some crazy cars skewing the stats or at least making Hellcats feel a little less elite.
 
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