Chin Track Days for the weekend on the newest track in the nation! Almost 4 miles, 19 turns, and 1200' of elevation change! Great opportunity to drive your car to your potential! See you there, I'll be instructing and driving!
Anybody joining me at Ozarks International 10-11 SEPT 2022?
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Oh well, you are missing out on one of the most amazing ways to enjoy your car! But hey, you car will be worth more than mine by keeping it low miles and not driving it. The next owner will appreciate that! I'll be having enough fun for all of us!
Hey TrackDay, glad you and your son are spending time together. I am heading down to MOPARTY in KY the following weekend. Starting a new job in OCT, so I'll be scarce at the track for a while after that. See ya next time! Do well in SCCA Solo!
My car is returning without a mechanical problem. Personally, that was expensive and challenging, but finally I am very happy with this unit. Minor brake pad wear on this track. We get at least twice the gas mileage as compared to BIR and RA. WOT is only possible if you have an active brain tumor and you would like to cheat death because you are nuts. But it is possible once or twice around for maybe one second. My Harry’s info indicates it never used more than about what the black key can deliver for HP, but it has a new personality with gobs of torque. It did remain in and around the max torque point of the RPM range, but it was fine about anywhere. One other RE who still has them attached blew another converter. 
We are thinking Dodge screwed us. The converters can’t do a road course with intense driving and the HO engine. Who TF tested these for Dodge and where? Born pussy’s?
I had to load a “downgraded” tune from what the drag racers use after checking it out Saturday morning in some “orientation” laps. I’ll admit, I was “concerned” and needed a remedial ride after that with @SIXGUN who supplied the necessary therapy after a few laps with him before I went out again. Then I knew where the upper envelope was, that helped a bunch. Thanks buddy.
We had to scrub some throttle response and delay some power coming in. But it still is a monster. I will use this same configuration at BIR Oct 12. If necessary and possible (traction) we do have more power that can come in at high RPM’s at high speed. It is a bit unnerving to have the tires bark at 90 mph as you know! (CANNOT allow that to happen anywhere at turn #2 on our favorite place huh?) Auto or manual, don’t matter. So it does work better in manual as far as that is concerned, where the throttle can be lifted a bit to minimize the momentary traction loss on the shifts. It now has the opposite of the shifting hiccup.
I can’t wait to get this car back on the “home” tracks and see what it can do now. I found some consistency in the low 3-teens, @SIXGUN was running about ten seconds better. I could have done that, but I was not going to jeopardize me or the car on this track after just two days. I will bring a more appropriate road car here after I get it. The course may be the toughest one in the land. It flat requires memorization and faith that nothing changed since you last came through, and the flag stations MUST be on their toes here, and you better pay attention to each one of them. No video has shown or will show just how interesting and the many blind hills and corners and off camber turns to consider. But, if done correctly, it is very rewarding and fun.
It helped a great deal to know people here. The food and people in the area are outstanding and welcoming. They are just discovering what the track is and what it will be for the community. Driving in to the track south of I-70 is just as tough towing anything as they say. I know @SIXGUN had a blast and will have some comments to share. We wished him a safe drive back Sunday. We are going to take the next couple days going back beginning this morning in a while.
We are thinking Dodge screwed us. The converters can’t do a road course with intense driving and the HO engine. Who TF tested these for Dodge and where? Born pussy’s? I had to load a “downgraded” tune from what the drag racers use after checking it out Saturday morning in some “orientation” laps. I’ll admit, I was “concerned” and needed a remedial ride after that with @SIXGUN who supplied the necessary therapy after a few laps with him before I went out again. Then I knew where the upper envelope was, that helped a bunch. Thanks buddy.
We had to scrub some throttle response and delay some power coming in. But it still is a monster. I will use this same configuration at BIR Oct 12. If necessary and possible (traction) we do have more power that can come in at high RPM’s at high speed. It is a bit unnerving to have the tires bark at 90 mph as you know! (CANNOT allow that to happen anywhere at turn #2 on our favorite place huh?) Auto or manual, don’t matter. So it does work better in manual as far as that is concerned, where the throttle can be lifted a bit to minimize the momentary traction loss on the shifts. It now has the opposite of the shifting hiccup.
I can’t wait to get this car back on the “home” tracks and see what it can do now. I found some consistency in the low 3-teens, @SIXGUN was running about ten seconds better. I could have done that, but I was not going to jeopardize me or the car on this track after just two days. I will bring a more appropriate road car here after I get it. The course may be the toughest one in the land. It flat requires memorization and faith that nothing changed since you last came through, and the flag stations MUST be on their toes here, and you better pay attention to each one of them. No video has shown or will show just how interesting and the many blind hills and corners and off camber turns to consider. But, if done correctly, it is very rewarding and fun.
It helped a great deal to know people here. The food and people in the area are outstanding and welcoming. They are just discovering what the track is and what it will be for the community. Driving in to the track south of I-70 is just as tough towing anything as they say. I know @SIXGUN had a blast and will have some comments to share. We wished him a safe drive back Sunday. We are going to take the next couple days going back beginning this morning in a while.
Man, you guys missed it (except for DGatzby, SwatDoc, along with 666Gato maybe?) Glad you guys made the event)! I was hoping to chat more with you guys but with a student assigned and a new track to learn and instruct on, I was pretty busy. This is a very technical track and i had a blast driving it and instructing my second-time-on-track student in his car. Also had a chance to help a guy in a new Porsche GT3RS, which is amazing! He was able to increase his best ever time on track by 6 seconds, from 2:59 to 2:53 after me riding with him, then he rode with me in the mighty Redeye. He even had his 250lb friend on board for that lap, so he was happy! Was planning to ride with DGatzby but we didn't get it done.
Best I could comfortably get around the track was a couple laps at 3:00 in this car for this first time on this track on 315/30 PS4Ss. The AAD arms front and Drag Pack out back, along with the BMR 38mm hollow front bar in the stiffest setting (20% firmer than stock) and a track oriented alignment make all the difference in handling on these cars. The stock suspension setup handles well until pushed harder. This track is very easy on brake pads and I was burning about 6 gallons per session, vs 8 gallons per session at Sebring on the stock tune. Caution, don't lose focus for a moment or you can get in trouble quick on this track. A couple cars crashed pretty hard, so ease into this and any track when you drive it.
This suspension / tire / alignment setup works really well, even on the 18 hour drive to the track, just rock solid. Fun on the surrounding curves to this track too! I'll get a video link posted soon, but the video does not even begin to show the elevation and camber changes of this track. Yes, I know I have a shaky mount for my phone using Track Addict. I am sticking with my stock tune to maintain my warranty, as I cannot put down all the power I have now on a track like this. I bought an extended warranty so I will just fly it and watch it. I did have a P0420 cured for now with a new right cat and sensor, but the P0430 (left side) came back last Friday eve after a few laps of HPDE, just after the new left cat and sensor was installed last week. Maybe it was a bum part. Will get it back to the dealership for a follow-up and let you guys know. The P0420 currently has survived a couple weekends of HPDE. Time will tell.
I encourage you to get your car on track, it might be the funnest thing you will ever do.
Best I could comfortably get around the track was a couple laps at 3:00 in this car for this first time on this track on 315/30 PS4Ss. The AAD arms front and Drag Pack out back, along with the BMR 38mm hollow front bar in the stiffest setting (20% firmer than stock) and a track oriented alignment make all the difference in handling on these cars. The stock suspension setup handles well until pushed harder. This track is very easy on brake pads and I was burning about 6 gallons per session, vs 8 gallons per session at Sebring on the stock tune. Caution, don't lose focus for a moment or you can get in trouble quick on this track. A couple cars crashed pretty hard, so ease into this and any track when you drive it.
This suspension / tire / alignment setup works really well, even on the 18 hour drive to the track, just rock solid. Fun on the surrounding curves to this track too! I'll get a video link posted soon, but the video does not even begin to show the elevation and camber changes of this track. Yes, I know I have a shaky mount for my phone using Track Addict. I am sticking with my stock tune to maintain my warranty, as I cannot put down all the power I have now on a track like this. I bought an extended warranty so I will just fly it and watch it. I did have a P0420 cured for now with a new right cat and sensor, but the P0430 (left side) came back last Friday eve after a few laps of HPDE, just after the new left cat and sensor was installed last week. Maybe it was a bum part. Will get it back to the dealership for a follow-up and let you guys know. The P0420 currently has survived a couple weekends of HPDE. Time will tell.
I encourage you to get your car on track, it might be the funnest thing you will ever do.
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So what were your alignment specs? Interested to see how they compare to other past road racers of this old platform.
We both have the AAD adj arms up front, tugged all the way. I have notes that the 6mm tabs on all four places is all they will go.
Mine reads -2.1 degrees each side. The toe is adj to about 1/8” not more, toe-in. I also track AND drive it on the street with those settings and all my tires wear even across, everything feels good.
Mine reads -2.1 degrees each side. The toe is adj to about 1/8” not more, toe-in. I also track AND drive it on the street with those settings and all my tires wear even across, everything feels good.
-2.5° camber, 1/16" total toe up front, -1.5° camber, 1/8" total toe out back with AAD upper control arms up front, AAD Drag Pack out back, and the hollow 38mm BMR bar up front in the stiffest (20% stiffer than stock). Works quite well and keeps the tires in contact with the track better in corners! Right front still a little light in T17 Sebring here! Curious if the new AAD Lower Control Arms up front would help.
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