[Reaperhwk]

Been driving the new car for a few days. I drove it back from the dealer easy on tje highway with black key but after 150 miles I can’t wait anymore. Red fob yesterday and been doing some WOT bursts on the highway. Nothing to crazy but no way I can go 500 miles without gunning it!

 

[15 Cent WB_Scat]

Hey the driver at the plant, then train yard and finally at the dealership probably did the same thing. Enjoy it and remember "what happens in V stays in V."

 

[Toad 1]

Eh, definitely not good for the car but then again every used hellcat is going to be absolutely thrashed by the time it hits 10k miles so who cares

 

[baabootoo]

ASs I recall, it wasn't all that restrictive. Didn't they want WOT with the paddles?

 

[SRK]

You won't hurt it at all. If the oil and coolant levels are correct, and the engine is fully warmed up, have at it. The engine was already run hard on the dyno before it was installed in the car.

 

[Turd McGavin]

Eh, definitely not good for the car but then again every used hellcat is going to be absolutely thrashed by the time it hits 10k miles so who cares

How is it not good for the car? Do you have any legitimate data that would suggest you are correct?

 

[HellcatHellYeah]

Throw the black key in a drawer and forget it, your foot controls the speed.

 

[Vet Rider]

The only thing restricted up to 500 miles was launch control being enabled for use. Other than that, let her rip tater chip.

 

[HP_Addict19]

ASs I recall, it wasn't all that restrictive. Didn't they want WOT with the paddles?

At 300-500 miles you can go wot. Try to use paddles at high RPMs.

But don’t sustain wot.

For the most part I followed the instructions so far. Like no excessive braking.

 

[HP_Addict19]

How is it not good for the car? Do you have any legitimate data that would suggest you are correct?

I just think if you run it too hard from the start, it could hurt something because it’s not finished breaking in. Owners manual said don’t take it to the track until 1500 miles.

Edit: Oil analysis threads may show proof if there’s too much metal or whatever for how many miles on it.

Guys having to change brake pads too soon maybe another reason.

I don’t care guys. Do what you want.

 

[Bhdau1]

These cars come with a Dodge-provided break-in procedure instructions. I would suggest strongly that you follow those unless you don't care about the longevity of the motor. I think it is also known that cars that were properly broken-in generally produce more horsepower than those that weren't. If you want to be safe follow those instructions, then at 500 miles change the oil. This will remove any metallic particulate or shavings, etc. that could possibly be in the engine from it's manufacture. After this is done, drive and enjoy the car however you like and then change the oil again after 2 to 3000 miles. After this final break-in oil change number 2, proceed to change oil at normal scheduled intervals as you see fit. Just my .02 Cents!

 

[Reaperhwk]

These cars come with a Dodge-provided break-in procedure instructions. I would suggest strongly that you follow those unless you don't care about the longevity of the motor. I think it is also known that cars that were properly broken-in generally produce more horsepower than those that weren't. If you want to be safe follow those instructions, then at 500 miles change the oil. This will remove any metallic particulate or shavings, etc. that could possibly be in the engine from it's manufacture. After this is done, drive and enjoy the car however you like and then change the oil again after 2 to 3000 miles. After this final break-in oil change number 2, proceed to change oil at normal scheduled intervals as you see fit. Just my .02 Cents!

makes sense. I only floored it a few times anyway not like I’m an animal. I do probably give it 75% a good amount of times.

the owners Manual doesn’t say change at 500 miles, says 6 months or 6000? Is this 500 mile oil change just a rule of thumb or from dodge?

 

[HP_Addict19]

Real of thumb. Yea I guess. I might change mine at 750 or so. IMO.
Yea we know the manual doesn’t say when to do first oil change. But it’s common sense. If they give break in instructions up to 500 miles. And like I said the manual also states don’t race it at the track until 1500 miles

 

[HP_Addict19]

These cars come with a Dodge-provided break-in procedure instructions. I would suggest strongly that you follow those unless you don't care about the longevity of the motor. I think it is also known that cars that were properly broken-in generally produce more horsepower than those that weren't. If you want to be safe follow those instructions, then at 500 miles change the oil. This will remove any metallic particulate or shavings, etc. that could possibly be in the engine from it's manufacture. After this is done, drive and enjoy the car however you like and then change the oil again after 2 to 3000 miles. After this final break-in oil change number 2, proceed to change oil at normal scheduled intervals as you see fit. Just my .02 Cents!

There’s a newer oil analysis thread. I can’t look it up now but a member changed his oil at 500 miles and it had some metal and break in additive. The lab tech said it’s normal and should clear up with more miles and oil changes

 

[Bhdau1]

makes sense. I only floored it a few times anyway not like I’m an animal. I do probably give it 75% a good amount of times.

the owners Manual doesn’t say change at 500 miles, says 6 months or 6000? Is this 500 mile oil change just a rule of thumb or from dodge?

Its not in the manual but a very good and common practice. The oil that is in the engine usually has some break-in additives that you want to get out of there, but mainly its for flushing out any metal particles from microscopic to small that may be flowing thru the oiling system of the motor or stuck in the filter. You have to think about all of the machine work done to construct the engine and parts on it and the potential for some of the metal/aluminum removed to be stuck on parts when it was assembled. Finally, while the engine may be mostly broken-in by this point it will still have a ways to go before being completely broken-in and everything seated properly. This is where the 2nd oil change at 2000 to 3000 miles comes in. Once that second one is done it should be ready to haul a*s with no issues or worries about the oil. While everyone is aware that engine oil is VERY important in any car, it is even more so in this one due to the engine and supercharger design.

 

[NoScat]

Hey the driver at the plant, then train yard and finally at the dealership probably did the same thing. Enjoy it and remember "what happens in V stays in V."

Except herpes…

 

[usmc341]

Gonna play devil's advocate here. 3 Hellcats, all 3 oil changed at 5k miles. No issues at all. No metal chips in oil or filter (took apart filter). As far as I know there is no specific break in oil or additives from the factory. It's the same oil that is recommended in the manual. In my opinion, people overthink oil way too much. Just drive it.

 

[Arabex]

The whole thing about the break in is to allow all new parts to properly seat where they need to, on an engine is all about the rings and liners, then you also have the differential and then the transmission…

The 500 mile rule of thumb is typically about you can do on a dyno by running an engine on a typical duty cycle (mix of city, highway driving conditions) which will include some part load and few full load conditions for sure.

My recommendation is always ensure proper engine warm up, allow it to reach normal temps, I for one let it go through its cold start up initial crank, engine will go to somewhere around 1,200 to 1,500 RPMs then gradually drop down to idle, that’s when I engage the transmission and off I go from my driveway, from there just be gentle and let it warm up till you at least reach coolant temps around 200F, your oil temps will initially be lower as your engine hasn’t heat soaked completely yet…

Also ensure not to idle too much that is a real pain for an engine, other than that enjoy it and don’t do anything crazy, remember you are most likely driving in public roads so always good to be mindful of others around you…

Certainly driving on a track is not a good break in for any vehicle as you will be pushing the mechanical Components to its limits!

Enjoy it as we are really lucky to live in this great country and enjoy such a great Grownups toys!!!!

 

[HP_Addict19]

Gonna play devil's advocate here. 3 Hellcats, all 3 oil changed at 5k miles. No issues at all. No metal chips in oil or filter (took apart filter). As far as I know there is no specific break in oil or additives from the factory. It's the same oil that is recommended in the manual. In my opinion, people overthink oil way too much. Just drive it.

Here’s the oil analysis thread I mentioned. Factory oil in it.

Oil Analysis of Factory Fill on 2022 Hellcat Redeye at...

I just changed the factory engine oil, filter, and drained the oil cooler at 505 miles on my 2022 Redeye Challenger. I sent a 3 oz sample to Blackstone labs, I've sent all my oil samples to them over the past decade or so. It saved me big bucks several years back when they accurately predicted...

www.hellcat.org

 

[Turd McGavin]

excessive idling has zero effect on engines, as do gently breaking it in vs hammering it...this has been documented several times. Pro tip, if you are a follow the manual kind of guy then follow it, if you don't care about the manual then don't follow it. There is no "break in" additive added to the oil, never was, never will be...would you like to talk to the engineer that designed the engine?