[109399]

Hello everyone, I have a 2021 Hellcat Redeye Charger. I also am a Jeep Rock Crawler, so I understand lockers. Now that being said my car came with the LCD limited slip but the limited slip is not a locker ( i.e. I know a locker would still push the car back and forth. ) they should come out with an option for my car to have either an air locker switch on and off or an electric locker that can do the same. Therefore you have 100% locked like a spool, you can use to street race all the people who ( and if you have a car like this you understand ) want to race. Pretty much every light I pull up to someone either camero,mustang,tesla,lambo,ferrari have all attempted.. Yes I beat a Ferrari it was an older one and the Lambo we were on the freeway he was shocked. Not the point though here. I just feel as a JEEPER I truly believe this car needs to have some option for a full electric locker or an ARB. WHY CAN I NOT FIND ONE ... so nobody has one nobody makes one? If so can you send me their information. Thank you

 

[Xylander]

So, you want a selectable diff lock on a car that has a camera from 2012 and you're wondering why you can't get it?

 

[GBLWRMR]

It's simply not needed. If you've ever done a burnout, you would have seen that both wheels spin vs a single. Unlike your Jeep, one of your rear wheels will never leave the ground or spin at a higher rate than the other. (unless you are wheeling your HC)

 

[109399]

So, you want a selectable diff lock on a car that has a camera from 2012 and you're wondering why you can't get it?

If your answer is NO or not that you know of then thanks anyways

 

[109399]

It's simply not needed. If you've ever done a burnout, you would have seen that both wheels spin vs a single. Unlike your Jeep, one of your rear wheels will never leave the ground or spin at a higher rate than the other. (unless you are wheeling your HC)

That would be with a locker. Yes both tires spin but if you take off from a light you sway either right or left with a limited slip its not fully locked. If you have a fully locked diff the tires turn same speed at all times. There would be not swaying to one side or the other like your going to sway into the car next to you. The limited slip has a delay

 

[OKSS]

That would be with a locker. Yes both tires spin but if you take off from a light you sway either right or left with a limited slip its not fully locked. If you have a fully locked diff the tires turn same speed at all times. There would be not swaying to one side or the other like your going to sway into the car next to you. The limited slip has a delay

Check for proper tire pressure and potholes in the roads.

 

[2ndAmend]

That would be with a locker. Yes both tires spin but if you take off from a light you sway either right or left with a limited slip its not fully locked. If you have a fully locked diff the tires turn same speed at all times. There would be not swaying to one side or the other like your going to sway into the car next to you. The limited slip has a delay

Have you driven, or even ridden in a HC doing a burnout?

 

[109399]

Have you driven, or even ridden in a HC doing a burnout?

What do you mean I have a Hellcat Redeye a 2021 obviously, I blew through tires at 2000 miles. I'm not talking about that I'm talking about 100% traction , yes a limited slip is close but it's not the same thing. Not even sure why you would even ask me that. An electric locker or an ARB an Airlocker which basically turns your diff into a spool for the time being. Something you can turn off and turn on.

 

[16GoManGoHC]

What do you mean I have a Hellcat Redeye a 2021 obviously, I blew through tires at 2000 miles. I'm not talking about that I'm talking about 100% traction , yes a limited slip is close but it's not the same thing. Not even sure why you would even ask me that. An electric locker or an ARB an Airlocker which basically turns your diff into a spool for the time being. Something you can turn off and turn on.

I don’t think a locker is going to give you 100% traction, they’re still going to spin the tires you’re just going to spin the both of them at the same time at the same speed. I put down 950 wheel and my car pulls straight as an arrow no matter if it’s spinning or fighting for traction in the rear, you could feel some shimmy as both rears fight each other which one’s going to put down more then the other. I don’t think a locker would do me any good nor do I think I would want to run one because if you do get yourself in a side ways condition both wheels spinning like mad and they decide to grab with the rear wheels locked solid getting out of it may turn out bad. I keep the stability control and traction control on all the time even at the track, for me it’s not worth a few hundreds of time extra for the risk involved for getting out of whack and totaling the car at 120+ spinning which my M6 cat can do and does at times and still puts down 5.7 60-130 times and 11.2 at 143 on the street with 315/35-20 DR’s. Invest your money In suspension mods to get them tires to stick better and you’ll probably be better off then a locked rear.
Edit spell correct shiny to shimmy

 

[Xylander]

Well, the Hellcat does lock its diff under acceleration, to a point. If you do a burnout, both tires leave rubber. It's not like some other American V8 RWD cars that will only spin one or the other (usually the left). I guess I'm failing to understand why the OP wants a Detroit Locker style rear end when he already has one that locks into place for acceleration. But, whatever

 

[109399]

I don’t think a locker is going to give you 100% traction, they’re still going to spin the tires you’re just going to spin the both of them at the same time at the same speed. I put down 950 wheel and my car pulls straight as an arrow no matter if it’s spinning or fighting for traction in the rear, you could feel some shiny as both rears fight each other which one’s going to put down more then the other. I don’t think a locker would do me any good nor do I think I would want to run one because if you do get yourself in a side ways condition both wheels spinning like mad and they decide to grab with the rear wheels locked solid getting out of it may turn out bad. I keep the stability control and traction control on all the time even at the track, for me it’s not worth a few hundreds of time extra for the risk involved for getting out of whack and totaling the car at 120+ spinning which my M6 cat can do and does at times and still puts down 5.7 60-130 times and 11.2 at 143 on the street with 315/35-20 DR’s. Invest your money In suspension mods to get them tires to stick better and you’ll probably be better off then a locked rear.

Very good point. Thank you for the feedback. I only wonder if a full locked not just a locker( because lockers engage automatically to the tire that has the most traction ) but with a full electric locker or an air locker it would push with both tires same speed but you do make a very good point. Appreciate the feed back

 

[2ndAmend]

If you are experienced with HC's then you know they do not "sway[ing] to one side or the other like your going to sway into the car next to you" I am not a racer but I don't think the racers here use a locker. I would think if it could get someone .05sec, everyone would have it.

I am not a mechanic either but what was explained to me matches X's statement. Under high torque they are said to shift load the the clutches increasing friction to reduce slip further.

 

[109399]

Well, the Hellcat does lock its diff under acceleration, to a point. If you do a burnout, both tires leave rubber. It's not like some other American V8 RWD cars that will only spin one or the other (usually the left). I guess I'm failing to understand why the OP wants a Detroit Locker style rear end when he already has one that locks into place for acceleration. But, whatever

Yes they do correct, but my thought was like my JEEP when I'm on the rocks and fully locked in air locker status - the complete differential is locked like a spool for the moment. Then obviously run with it off and to only be used when racing or at the drag strip. IDK that's why I'm asking around. I would love to test it out at least but can not even find it. I'm going to check with my Rock Crawler peeps and see their input.

 

[Dennis H]

Well, the Hellcat does lock its diff under acceleration, to a point. If you do a burnout, both tires leave rubber. It's not like some other American V8 RWD cars that will only spin one or the other (usually the left). I guess I'm failing to understand why the OP wants a Detroit Locker style rear end when he already has one that locks into place for acceleration. But, whatever

No, he needs a C8. Less horsepower and looks Italian, but a much better car.

My understanding is that a spool is meant for track only duty. They cause a chirp and chatter on the slightest turn/curve. The factory Sure-Grip will do the job.

 

[109399]

No, he needs a C8. Less horsepower and looks Italian, but a much better car.

My understanding is that a spool is meant for track only duty. They cause a chirp and chatter on the slightest turn/curve. The factory Sure-Grip will do the job.

A C8 and I'm Italian the hell, I'm not but who cares if I was. So, a spool will definitely do what you are saying. I was saying an Electric lockers or an Air Locker ( these will act as a spool when they are on but if they are not on. Then is reacts just like an open differential.

 

[109399]

Thanks

 

[MJS73]

A locker would have come in handy last weekend when I was rock crawling in the Mojave with my Challenger.

 

[Turd McGavin]

This might be the dumbest thing I’ve read on this forum…the stock LSD with not release under a load, Essentially making it the exact same as a locker. Having an electric or air locker would be a hindrance not an advantage, as you would have to remember to engage and disengage the thing.

 

[Unavowed]

Have you tried lifting it with 37's?

 

[Dodge Challenger TA 392]

The car has 797 hp, no locker is gonna help, get some good tires.