Arguably, the Challenger and Charger are the last of the US muscle cars. The Camaro and Mustang are the last of the US pony cars. Either way, they often get compared to one another because they have the top performing engines for their respective brands.I still get offended when they call the Challenger a pony car. I mean, come on... it weighs 4,800lb The only things it has in common with Mustangs and Camaros are 2 doors and 4 tires. In addition, as we all know that the 300, Charger, and Challenger are all built on the same LX platform and have shared powerplants, they're mostly the same cars with some subtle performance differences. If you take those three and compare them to the "pony car" class, then Dodge is just killing it.
Not many on the road, for comparison in 1979 Chevrolet sold 282,571 Camaros, I can go weeks without seeing a Challenger around here.Makes sense, they're everywhere. As much as I like the Hellcat version, there's so many Challenger and Chargers on the road, I'm sick of seeing all of them and they don't even turn my head anymore. Market is way too saturated. Another 5-10 years when they thin out some will be a refreshing change. Victim of their own success to some degree.
Sales
2021 Challenger 54314 Mustang 52414 Camaro 21893
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Not in my town, about every 1 out of 5 vehicles is a Charger or Challenger. I see a dozen every day.Not many on the road, for comparison in 1979 Chevrolet sold 282,571 Camaros, I can go weeks without seeing a Challenger around here.
How are vehicles on there that are not in production?![]()
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These are sales only, so those "new" cars been sitting around a bit.How are vehicles on there that are not in production?
The big news here is that Dodge sold 4 new Vipers this year!![]()
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Never sold until now I guess...It's all about making $$$$$
How are vehicles on there that are not in production?
Agree with you that the sheer size and weight of the Challenger makes it less a pony car and more true to the muscle car definition. But then you have to consider that likely 60% of those 54k Challengers sold in 2021 were SXT V6 models, which by traditional definition is truer to a pony car. Until you consider the 305 HP of the Pentastar V6, which by 70's standards moves the needle back to the muscle car definition.I still get offended when they call the Challenger a pony car. I mean, come on... it weighs 4,800lb The only things it has in common with Mustangs and Camaros are 2 doors and 4 tires. In addition, as we all know that the 300, Charger, and Challenger are all built on the same LX platform and have shared powerplants, they're mostly the same cars with some subtle performance differences. If you take those three and compare them to the "pony car" class, then Dodge is just killing it.
It’s also a problem of keeping the design the same for ever. I can’t think of a single coupe that has lasted essentially unchanged visually for more than ten years.Makes sense, they're everywhere. As much as I like the Hellcat version, there's so many Challenger and Chargers on the road, I'm sick of seeing all of them and they don't even turn my head anymore. Market is way too saturated. Another 5-10 years when they thin out some will be a refreshing change. Victim of their own success to some degree.