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So I've been looking around and I seen that dealers on this forum are offering 4-8% off on factory orders when you place it. Will some of the dealers still do that on 2023 models?
Also will I be able to walk into a dealership and place a custom order on a 2023 hellcat exactly how I want it or I have to just get what dodge sends out or that's only for the 7 special edition colors they are bringing back?
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Great job Dodge.
This is the confusion you have created. Who signed off on this ridiculous promotion?
 

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Unless one of the special editions has a lot more power than the regular Redeye, I doubt I would be interested. I ain't paying 5-10k extra for a badge and some special paint color.

I am curious if one of the dealers that are selling 4-8% under invoice would be still doing that on the 2023 WBRE (gotta get my PCP)
 

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Unless one of the special editions has a lot more power than the regular Redeye, I doubt I would be interested. I ain't paying 5-10k extra for a badge and some special paint color.

I am curious if one of the dealers that are selling 4-8% under invoice would be still doing that on the 2023 WBRE (gotta get my PCP)
Hellcat Jesus is still sticking to 4% under invoice for WBRE. Im on the list to order one myself. So fingers crossed it stays that way
 

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Hellcat Jesus is still sticking to 4% under invoice for WBRE. Im on the list to order one myself. So fingers crossed it stays that way
If theyre still stripped down only then that would make sense. I myself wouldnt want one like that.
 
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I don't know if 23's are available to order, but it is my guess that Koons and Cummings will still offer better deals than locals, otherwise on one would go 500 or 1kmi for a car.
 

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I will be sticking with hellcat Jesus. He said he's very confident that I'll be in a redeye and he's been pretty consistent with his promise of 4% under for the redeyes. I was trying to buy a redeye from Koons in Vienna VA and I got ignored I sent twenty emails called spoke to the manager etc. eventually they said that they just sold the car I was interested in. I had contacted them probably a week and a half before the car sold and I just got ignored. I'll stick with hellcat Jesus.
 

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I will be sticking with hellcat Jesus. He said he's very confident that I'll be in a redeye and he's been pretty consistent with his promise of 4% under for the redeyes. I was trying to buy a redeye from Koons in Vienna VA and I got ignored I sent twenty emails called spoke to the manager etc. eventually they said that they just sold the car I was interested in. I had contacted them probably a week and a half before the car sold and I just got ignored. I'll stick with hellcat Jesus.
Koons is good for ordering. They have a dedicated email just for the forum group buy discounts. Works well. If you dont use that things get dicey. That being said, anything in stock? It's a completely different experience. Pass.
 

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Yeah. I'm not sure if it's all Koons or if just the one I spoke with but the one in Vienna sucked me around pretty serious
You must have gotten the regular lot dealer employees. I had a similar short experience with them in the beginning when I accidentally emailed the main Koons email address instead of emailing Craig directly through the group buy contact. I had some goober who was flooding me with emails and not responding to any of my response emails, telling me that I should call him right now if I wanted to get one of these special cars!!!

Funny enough was that once I took delivery from Craig, I started getting emails from the same goober(s) who somehow learned I had "recently purchased a Hellcat in the area" and that I should sell it to them at their lot. They even offered me a very reasonable 75 cents on the dollar for my zero mileage Redeye. LOL
 

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The real question is, does Hellcat Jesus die in 2024? Name change to EV Ibrahim?
 

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I will be sticking with hellcat Jesus. He said he's very confident that I'll be in a redeye and he's been pretty consistent with his promise of 4% under for the redeyes. I was trying to buy a redeye from Koons in Vienna VA and I got ignored I sent twenty emails called spoke to the manager etc. eventually they said that they just sold the car I was interested in. I had contacted them probably a week and a half before the car sold and I just got ignored. I'll stick with hellcat Jesus.
You must have gotten the regular lot dealer employees. I had a similar short experience with them in the beginning when I accidentally emailed the main Koons email address instead of emailing Craig directly through the group buy contact. I had some goober who was flooding me with emails and not responding to any of my response emails, telling me that I should call him right now if I wanted to get one of these special cars!!!

Funny enough was that once I took delivery from Craig, I started getting emails from the same goober(s) who somehow learned I had "recently purchased a Hellcat in the area" and that I should sell it to them at their lot. They even offered me a very reasonable 75 cents on the dollar for my zero mileage Redeye. LOL
njsteve is 100%. Koons has effectively 2 different companies under the same roof. There is the normal sales dept who, I have learned from direct experience, are a bunch of useless scumbags.

The other company is Craig's Group Buy that is a no BS heavy discount operation, which I am sure the other sales people not only detest, but probably deny the existence of.

You need to contact Craig directly and mention the Group Buy through this forum. I got 12.1% off sticker this March, njsteve did even better. I have a Ram on order with them now for 5% under invoice when the local dealers wouldn't even return my calls.

Might be worth your while to contact Craig. Can’t hurt. Let us know. Good luck! :)
 

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When buying the RE from Koons in March, while walking down to the hall to Craig’s office my wife noticed a bowl of candy on a desk in another office. My wife (I guess they all) has a sweet tooth and I sadly had to tell her that was for the people that pay MSRP. :(
 

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I don't know if 23's are available to order, but it is my guess that Koons and Cummings will still offer better deals than locals, otherwise on one would go 500 or 1kmi for a car.
Cummins was $10K over MSRP on all their 23 HC allocations. Was on the Charger list and passed when they called and told me.
 

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There’s no such thing as a Cuda…..it’s not coming

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