Well I will admit, it’s far from a perfect comparison but settle down a bit as you don’t know the full story. Trying to help not ruffle feathers. Not what I’m about
Focus RS is awd first off, not FWD. My RS was not stock and had a similar power to weight ratio to a stock hellcat believe it or not. Not near as fast in a straight line, but on a autocross, well I need not say more
I had a DSC controller on my RS. It did not help lap times in autocross. It did what was advertised for that car, and made the ride more tolerable. So yes, totally different application, but in my eyes this mod allows you to use the car in a more comfortable fashion while driving fast or using the more aggressive dampening settings in the factory menu. If you want lap times your car is gonna have to be sprung stiff. If we are talking quarter mile rips, totally different ball game, but that’s not what I replied about to NeverEnough about his concern.
I lived with one of these controllers for almost 2 years and knew what it did an didn’t do very well for my application. I wasn’t giving a quick one week review but I did not clarify that all so I get it. If you don’t want to take any of what I have learned into changing the “tuning” on a adaptive suspension system that’s totally cool
Last I checked, when you buy a Diablo tuner they give some gain info and wether that’s repeatable in the real world or not is another discussion. My point was, they don’t list ET improvements with their canned tunes for each product line, nor should they. Too many variables. And this product is the same type of deal. The value in it lies in what your individual goals are
Please tell me DGatzby, do you have any experience with these controllers you want to share before nullifying anything I may try to add about them, or are you more interested in just saying it’s a different vehicle and no way they do anything at all in a similar fashion?
I didn’t tell anyone to buy one or not to. Just trying to set realistic expectations. Sorry to have offended you for being out of my league
Sorry. Did not mean to rail on you, I’ll explain my position more clear. I do respect and did read your review on the item in a Ford RS.
I have a controller installed in my Redeye WB. I have driven it 1000 yards last week. I actually felt some difference! It was -20 degrees here yesterday. My car don’t leave the garage except for when the sun shines and the roads are totally clear of any salt, sand or debris. I suspect sometime in March if we are lucky, it can be put on the road, or like last year, it may get put on its trailer and I’ll go drive with my good friend @sad
on his favorite track in OK early.
My car is extensively modified for a good balance of street manners and performance on high speed road courses. I would not autocross with 4500 plus pounds of weight with any mods, except for pure fun and comparisons with other 4500 pound cars. I am not surprised a little RS already light and optimized for short turns and AWD don’t show any appreciable objective result, therefore just minor subjective comments as per your account. I’ll stand by my post, the comments are not an appropriate comparison, especially with so many considering the product and waiting for any accounts from others.
I have 100’s of lap times recorded, videos posted and published, data is stored and analyzed with this car and a Hellcat with similar modifications. I have solid comparisons with a few other real serious road race junkies of Hellcats. I am committed to lots of people here and lots of people on another Forum who know me real well (you can check my posts here since 2014) that I will be doing a very detailed comparison with numbers, data and written reports on this item with respect to HIGH SPEED road course lap times. At a minimum that will include both configurations of BIR International and Road America WITH the high speed Kink OPEN. If we get lucky the shortest track will be Hallett. I have data from last year on that track also. Additionally, I have frequently attempted 0-60 street times, myself and others have agreed that if you can launch one on street tires on an unprepared surface AND not even concrete, and get 3.2-3.3 seconds that is as good as it gets. I’ll be looking forward to attempting some quick tests in that area for comparisons. I don’t have a time slip for this car, but I do have a data point with a fairly quick 1/4 mile lapsed time and speed. Again, a quick test or two may show results.
I have listened and have reviewed as many as 20 or more accounts from others on various social platforms concerning this product. They (the manufacturer/engineer) HAVE visited tracks and had people quickly install them for comparisons. Their lap times HAVE improved. As @MKL_DS
posts above, they HAVE shown improved 60’ times with this product. I know all of this, I don’t like to “rail” on others, except when IMO their info just don’t seem correct or appropriate and that is the reason I posted my opinion of your post yesterday.
Want to talk about improving lap times with equipment? Think the springs are where it is at huh? You might want to visit our extensive road race section with tremendous information on different items that improve lap times on a Hellcat. Some aftermarket springs will increase lap times! I am 100% confident that independent shock control beyond soft-more stiff-firm will improve lap times on our adjustable shock absorber. Think about the simple part. It will allow riding the rumble strips (and use more of the track - fundamental to quicker lap times) while making the shock absorber in contact with the strip soft, thus improving the driver control from the vibration and jumping otherwise over a rumple strip that would lose time.
Today, you digress, and now want to bad mouth the DS canned tunes on their ECU controller! Why that now?? Don’t tell me to settle down, I don’t need that advice either, if you think this response is over the top. You can’t believe what happens when I get excited.