[MKL_DS]

All the magic is in the controller programming.
Dodge does a lazy job of programming the Mag ride controller.
This new controller use the functionality of the shocks much better, takes advantage of their ability to go from firm to soft in an instant and recalibrates all modes.
When launching the car, it will make the shocks act as close to a 50/50 rear, 90/10 front that you can get. Then when you dive into the return road at the end of the track it will firm up the shocks for reduced body roll and improved cornering.

For more info, read some reviews of the DSC controller from GTR and Corvette and Mustang owners who have used them. I have yet to find anyone that regretted the purchase.
FWIW, GM does a MUCH better job of programming their magride systems, and when you see how much the Vette/Camaro guys rave about what the new controler does it should make you wonder how much better your set up can actually be.

 

[MKL_DS]

We run it on our Redeye, 1.28 60' with all stock suspension hardware.
We have a tester in the hands of a road racer and a Demon that regularly drag races for more real world results.

 

[MKL_DS]

No new modes, these magride systems are based on real time damping, it senses what you are doing in real time and makes better/more precise adjustments to the shock settings than the factory controller ever could.
When it senses a launch, it will adjust the shocks to suit the immediate needs.
Where it used to stiffen things up in say, track mode, it will now have much more range of adjustment within the controller, to react to real time changes.
All modes are optimized once the controller is installed.

Yes, I work for Diablosport. As we are not a Vendor I am walking a fine line here and simply trying to provide answers to questions and keep the promotion to a minimum

 

[MKL_DS]

Not sure exactly what the best settings would be for each intended use, that may indeed require some experimenting for each vehicle/setup.
My guess would be that you'll use the same modes you did before, just with each mode being more effective and capable than it was before.

 

[MKL_DS]

99% sure he uses Track mode, I will confirm.

 

[MKL_DS]

I concur that GM does a much a better job with the magride controller. Its night and day difference from my Hellcat to my ZL1.

This new controller will close that gap!

 

[MKL_DS]

I love it already. Overnight shipped it.. received it yesterday. Definently a new feel of driving. Track mode stock. Rattled my teeth. This makes it more compliant to the point it feels firmer but reacts to the cracks and seams in the road. I noticed that car doesn’t get upset on the curvy road with uneven surfaces.

I’m interested to see how launch mode truly works now. From what I’ve gathered. Drag radials at the track using launch control can happen now provided you have the proper driveline mods.

Awesome feedback. Its really hard to describe what this does to your car without experiencing it.

 

[MKL_DS]

Is this module married to a car or can it be moved from one car to another? The reason that I ask is because I currently have a '15 Hellcat Charger, but I have a Charger Redeye that should deliver in the next week or 2.

It does not marry to the vehicle. You can move it from one to the other no problem.

 

[MKL_DS]

What is the expected functionality gain for a manual transmission car on a drag radial or slick?

I imagine this would be similar to what was done in the Viper application.

Just based on how it works, I would have to imagine it would help launch a stick car quite a bit. Probably keeps the suspension from unloading, which would kill wheel hop, etc.

 

[MKL_DS]

Just a word of caution guys. I asked someone about the level of adjustability in the software, and whether it would keep a novice out of trouble or not, and was told its akin to handing a machine gun to a 5 year old. Be careful

 

[MKL_DS]

Your saying the settings are the same in street and track in the tables or some other parameter or setting or constant?

@MKL_DS we need to verify or correct that, it does not seem consistent with the information and it makes no sense. Or we need to be careful with accurate info.

Its just the G comfort settings that are the same, meaning it will feel/behave similarly in the steady G conditions.
Again, this stuff gets very technical and these settings don't necessarily represent everything its doing in all conditions.

Hoping for more out of the box feedback from others who have gotten theirs

 

[MKL_DS]

I have to imagine there is more to it that what you are seeing here.
I just don't believe this is as simple as its being made out to be. I also believe that there is more going on than the adjustments you are being shown.
I also truly and firmly believe that making blind adjustments to these settings is not likely to yield great result since the people who set these up and wrote the software seem to be better versed in calibrating these shocks than the OEMs.

I really think everyone should spend more time driving with it than fretting over the default values in the software

 

[MKL_DS]

Have you looked at the other forums (Porsche / Corvette) in which the company DSC Sport is quite active and DSC Sport's direct assistance with adjustments with the members on those forums? It is not just "Fretting" about base calibration numbers as those directly affect how the suspension behaves. When I tried the stock Hellcat calibration, I could tell that Street rode no different than Track mode in steady state (low G) conditions, and that Sport was more relaxed during those same low G conditions. As I previously mentioned, I would think most people would still want to keep the same perceived ramp up in intensity from Street to Sport to Track. Unfortunately, it seems to me that Diablosport has not researched this new exciting product very well and is strictly marketing / distributing it. It would be awesome to have a great resource available to the Hellcat community from Diablosport like DSC Sport is on other forums.

I'll gladly ask for more info on making these adjustments. It was explained to us that the default settings would be night and day over the factory controller and that adjustments should not be needed.
I'm sure the DSC guys would gladly engage in some discussion if they were here or if you asked them on a different forum. I don't expect that anyone on our end will be able to acquire the knowledge that they have about how these systems work to the point that we could provide that resource for you directly, as they are truly the experts in this field.

Thanks

 

[MKL_DS]

Been watching this thread with great interest...... I have a 2018 TrackHawk, and find the suspension lacking in anything but straight line driving, IMHO. Definite difference in drive modes, but nothing that instills confidence in it's handling in any mode.

Just spent some time looking up part numbers and to my surprise the "active damping suspension module" is the same on the Hellcats (charger/challenger) P68305564AB AND on the TrackHawk P68305564AC.... (AC being the latest). No expert here, but that thoroughly surprised me due to the significant differences in the vehicles.

For those of you with the Diablosport installed, with what I have stated above - do you think I would get the same sort of results as the Hellcats? TIA,

Trackhawks and Hellcats often share the same PCM part numbers as well, but the calibrations inside are not the same.
The Trackhawk uses its own programming specific to that chassis, and the current car based programming is not designed for the heavier SUV models. Maybe with enough Trackhawk/SRT Durango/Cherokee interest we could get that project going.

 

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Still looking for real world street handling improvements over stock w/this controller. does Diablo just have no proof? They sure have not given us any...

That’s really more of a subjective thing though no?
Let me know what kind of proof you are after and we’ll see what we can come up with.
We’ve put a few in the hands of some corner carvers and are awaiting feedback.
I’ll gladly tell you that our Redeye immediately felt more stable through high speed sweepers and off ramps.
I believe others have mentioned similar feedback from their experiences on the street.

 

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No, I'm waiting for DS to come in with some hard evidence. You know, like any reputable company does when they want you to pay $1k for a product...

Diablosport is not a Vendor here, so unfortunately that wont happen here in the immediate future.
If they could strap a car to the dyno and show results, they would.
Their Redeye has the fastest 60' time I have seen from any full weight Redeye, and that's not even on a 15" conversion. That should count for something. Nobody else running 1.28 60'.

There has been quite a bit of discussion, in this very thread, about how these devices work, and what they do. There was direct feedback from a user who had one in his GT350, another who had one in a Focus RS, and several who have installed it in their Hellcat/Redeye and provided feedback on that exact platform. Its also been suggested by some here, that there are tons of reviews of what kind of amazing changes these boxes can make to all sorts of cars, from CTSVs and Vettes to GTRs and Porsches.

If you don't feel there is enough evidence to sway your purchase, easy, hold off until you find what you are looking for.
Getting a properly equipped car out to a road course for back to back suspension testing is a TALL order. There are devices in the hands of a few guys who will perform that testing, but I can say for sure that it wont happen until the weather warms up at least a little bit in most areas

 

[MKL_DS]

Why are you so angry about this?
Seems it is just not for you, at least at this time. Hold off until the results you seek are available and then decide if its right for you.
Put that G in some dogecoin or something for now. LOL.

 

[MKL_DS]

We had an awesome day at the track today with all the Hellcat gurus...Team HHP, Mr Barth and company, and maybe AJ? (Did you miss your flight??).
Coordinating back to back testing of the suspension controller, especially with so many uncontrollable variables is tricky, but we are making progress. I’m only aware of one car that was able to get good before and after passes and the after pass was a new PB 60’ and ET. (1.31, 9.17). This happened in terrible air approaching 2000’ DA.
More to come...

 

[MKL_DS]

The software is available for download and can be edited by the end-user if desired. I could see others sharing their custom settings if they find improvements through adjustments.

 

[MKL_DS]

One of the cars at our Rental last week reset his PB 60' from 1.33 to 1.31 using the controller and matched his previous best of 9.17 on that pass, which had previously been done at MIR in awesome air vs the 200' DA we had last week. Unfortunately lots of stuff broke so we didn't get as much back to back testing as we'd have hoped