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What does everyone think of this? I'm curious as to whether or not this decreases shock life more than normal, what the cost of the controller will be & actual proof of handling improvement. Saw their video & all it showed was cars launching. Nothing with street driving or road course...

 

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Yes the controller on the hellcat def changes how it feels. I can confirm that much as of now. It’s snowing today so I can cruise around today and play with it some more.
How was the install? Look forward to more from you with some twisty road street driving. My car is my DD so I don't care about track launches. I want significantly better street handling...
 

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That’s really more of a subjective thing though no?
Let me know what kind of proof you are after and we’ll see what we can come up with.
We’ve put a few in the hands of some corner carvers and are awaiting feedback.
I’ll gladly tell you that our Redeye immediately felt more stable through high speed sweepers and off ramps.
I believe others have mentioned similar feedback from their experiences on the street.
Should be pretty simple for a company selling a $1,000 item to show us why it's better & by how much vs stock programming. Is the company really expecting everyone to just believe it b/c they said so? If they can't, then it just sounds like a marketing ploy.

I don't race my car so drag launches mean nothing to me. I will wait for DS to quantify how & why this would make my car handle and/or ride better on the street.
 

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then don’t buy it? 🤷🏻‍♂️ Nobody is forcing anything upon you. They do ride differently. I have literally all sweeping and winding ozark roads, it does hold corners better. Instead of all shocks remaining at 1 preset and not reacting. It truly does feel like the outside front shock stiffens and the inwards softens or vice versa. Hard braking the fronts react to diving. Hard accel rear reacts. I’ll see if I can find a long enough data cable to run to the front seat and see if it’ll show what’s happening in real time? I don’t know if that’s possible but it could be. I dropped the 1k immediately on the day it was released because of what these boxes do for the vipers, Porsches, and other brands. If you’re not doing anything other than daily driving with no intention of occasional road race or drag racing, I’d just keep the stock controller and call it good.
Didn't know asking for proof on a potential $1k item was wrong.

Anyway, Can you tell us more about how your car now handles the twisty roads vs before the controller? This is the real world stuff I am looking for in order to make a decision for myself
 

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I think one big question a lot of people would like to know are .. what each mode after the Diablosport is installed is intended for? I thought perhaps street mode was more of a drag setup but if you guys tuned and tested drag racing in track mode it would be nice to know that is where to start at the beginning of this season.
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There’s a specific corner I would get front end dive and protracted tire squeal at high speeds on and multiple brake application to get through it. I can tap the brakes entering the corner now to set the front end in place and it stays planted without squeal or multiple braking attempts. Driving highway speeds just cruising in street mode it is plush absorbs the cracks and seams in the roads that would normally transfer back into the body. Missouri is a heat cold cycle of a state in regards to roads so we have a lot of cracks and holes. It handles them noticeably better in street mode. I have not driven it in Track mode on the highway for any distance only side roads and it reacts quick to the stiffened state then back to relaxed.
I appreciate the feedback & posts like this are exactly what I am looking for. I might have to add this to the growing list of things to buy for the car lol
 

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You really need to download the software and some of the calibration files in order to compare the different data in each to get a good understanding of how this controller functions. There is a wealth of info on the DSC Sport site with the basics of how everything works, and then DSC Sport provides a lot of more advanced technical info on Porsche and Corvette forums (can be found with a Google search).
I was hoping for a solution that is pretty damn awesome out of the box. Didn't want to have to do a bunch of tuning myself if I'm dropping $1k
 

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This is exactly correct as once you get past ~0.6 G (starting to get to high G) in any direction the shocks start to follow the same pattern regardless of the selected mode. Put simply, high G loads are handled with the same firmness regardless of which drive mode is selected with any of the calibrations.
Would doing that then remove the ability to have 2 or 3 different modes/settings files if we wanted?
 

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No, because the software will not work with / read the factory controller. I wish I knew the factory settings (ma) for each mode. Maybe Diablosport or DSC Sport will provide us with that info.
Then they would have to provide us with exactly what they tweaked for $1k & it is clear they refuse to do that
 

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Where is Diablosport? Tell us exactly what you did & why this makes our cars handle XYZ better vs stock programming. If a company can't/won't provide proof then it's all marketing.

Drag racers need not reply lol. I daily drive mine & am only concerned with better handling
 

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Diablosport is not a Vendor here, so unfortunately that wont happen here in the immediate future.
If they could strap a car to the dyno and show results, they would.
Their Redeye has the fastest 60' time I have seen from any full weight Redeye, and that's not even on a 15" conversion. That should count for something. Nobody else running 1.28 60'.

There has been quite a bit of discussion, in this very thread, about how these devices work, and what they do. There was direct feedback from a user who had one in his GT350, another who had one in a Focus RS, and several who have installed it in their Hellcat/Redeye and provided feedback on that exact platform. Its also been suggested by some here, that there are tons of reviews of what kind of amazing changes these boxes can make to all sorts of cars, from CTSVs and Vettes to GTRs and Porsches.

If you don't feel there is enough evidence to sway your purchase, easy, hold off until you find what you are looking for.
Getting a properly equipped car out to a road course for back to back suspension testing is a TALL order. There are devices in the hands of a few guys who will perform that testing, but I can say for sure that it wont happen until the weather warms up at least a little bit in most areas :)
Again, I give no Fs about drag launches, I am focused on handling...
Also, they could put it on their site or ANYWHERE. They have shown NOTHING
 

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Sorry. Did not mean to rail on you, I’ll explain my position more clear. I do respect and did read your review on the item in a Ford RS.

I have a controller installed in my Redeye WB. I have driven it 1000 yards last week. I actually felt some difference! It was -20 degrees here yesterday. My car don’t leave the garage except for when the sun shines and the roads are totally clear of any salt, sand or debris. I suspect sometime in March if we are lucky, it can be put on the road, or like last year, it may get put on its trailer and I’ll go drive with my good friend @sad on his favorite track in OK early.

My car is extensively modified for a good balance of street manners and performance on high speed road courses. I would not autocross with 4500 plus pounds of weight with any mods, except for pure fun and comparisons with other 4500 pound cars. I am not surprised a little RS already light and optimized for short turns and AWD don’t show any appreciable objective result, therefore just minor subjective comments as per your account. I’ll stand by my post, the comments are not an appropriate comparison, especially with so many considering the product and waiting for any accounts from others.

I have 100’s of lap times recorded, videos posted and published, data is stored and analyzed with this car and a Hellcat with similar modifications. I have solid comparisons with a few other real serious road race junkies of Hellcats. I am committed to lots of people here and lots of people on another Forum who know me real well (you can check my posts here since 2014) that I will be doing a very detailed comparison with numbers, data and written reports on this item with respect to HIGH SPEED road course lap times. At a minimum that will include both configurations of BIR International and Road America WITH the high speed Kink OPEN. If we get lucky the shortest track will be Hallett. I have data from last year on that track also. Additionally, I have frequently attempted 0-60 street times, myself and others have agreed that if you can launch one on street tires on an unprepared surface AND not even concrete, and get 3.2-3.3 seconds that is as good as it gets. I’ll be looking forward to attempting some quick tests in that area for comparisons. I don’t have a time slip for this car, but I do have a data point with a fairly quick 1/4 mile lapsed time and speed. Again, a quick test or two may show results.

I have listened and have reviewed as many as 20 or more accounts from others on various social platforms concerning this product. They (the manufacturer/engineer) HAVE visited tracks and had people quickly install them for comparisons. Their lap times HAVE improved. As @MKL_DS posts above, they HAVE shown improved 60’ times with this product. I know all of this, I don’t like to “rail” on others, except when IMO their info just don’t seem correct or appropriate and that is the reason I posted my opinion of your post yesterday.

Want to talk about improving lap times with equipment? Think the springs are where it is at huh? You might want to visit our extensive road race section with tremendous information on different items that improve lap times on a Hellcat. Some aftermarket springs will increase lap times! I am 100% confident that independent shock control beyond soft-more stiff-firm will improve lap times on our adjustable shock absorber. Think about the simple part. It will allow riding the rumble strips (and use more of the track - fundamental to quicker lap times) while making the shock absorber in contact with the strip soft, thus improving the driver control from the vibration and jumping otherwise over a rumple strip that would lose time.

Today, you digress, and now want to bad mouth the DS canned tunes on their ECU controller! Why that now?? Don’t tell me to settle down, I don’t need that advice either, if you think this response is over the top. You can’t believe what happens when I get excited.
I just want to know how you ever drive the car if you're afraid of sand being on the road lol
 

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Well I’m about 60 miles south of him and can tell you these cars are zero fun to drive with the way our roads look. Sure they can be driven, but we have other vehicles for the winter time that do a better job. Way off topic at this point haha. The internet always wins in the misunderstanding dept...
EH, I daily mine all winter...
 
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