[VanishingPoint]

Does Anyone Think Dodge Will Add HP?

I mean really, does anyone think Dodge will pull a "Chevy" (think first C5 Z06 385 hp and then 405 the next year) and up the HP for 2016 HC's?

I for one don't see them adding anything like that, maybe ever.

They have already set an insane benchmark and should be thinking weight reduction w/o compromise in NVH, etc, IMHO,.

Further, w/o race rubber the car is barely able to put the power down NOW, so more power?

I'm definitely not thinking for '16, and probably not for '17-if the do-gooders nannies haven't snuffed it by then!

Thoughts?

 

[springman]

600 hp is the norm for most high end 250k sports cars, although they are about 800lbs lighter than the cat, 707 for the street with the extra weight is about right. But for track use with slicks we could use more.

 

[Jim Hetrick]

Yes, history tells us HP will go up. How much can't tell but it will go up as long as the goverment stays out of it. Just my opinion

 

[buddyg]

Not in the first year or two. First refresh maybe.

 

[gts_2001]

Does Anyone Think Dodge Will Add HP?

I mean really, does anyone think Dodge will pull a "Chevy" (think first C5 Z06 385 hp and then 405 the next year) and up the HP for 2016 HC's?

I for one don't see them adding anything like that, maybe ever.

They have already set an insane benchmark and should be thinking weight reduction w/o compromise in NVH, etc, IMHO,.

Further, w/o race rubber the car is barely able to put the power down NOW, so more power?

I'm definitely not thinking for '16, and probably not for '17-if the do-gooders nannies haven't snuffed it by then!

Thoughts?

After 14 years of Viper and SRT Challenger ownership, it's my observation that Chrysler, in it's various incarnations, has been thinking "way far outside the box" into the future, especially when it comes to engines and horsepower.

When the V-10 first came out, everyone thought that the stratosphere had been reached, and now, the naturally aspirated engine's horsepower has been increased by about 33%. It still hasn't reached it's maximum potential. Can Blue Oval and Bow Tie make that claim about their workhorses?

In the case of the Challenger, it has been widely criticized about it's size and weight. I wouldn't be surprised if they were thinking about the Hellcat in 2007 when the "born again" Challenger was announced. If the Challenger wasn't larger and heavier, it would never permitted the addition of the Hellcat. Again, I doubt that Rustang and Slomaro, in their current forms, can handle anything more than what we currently see. They are boxed in at present.

Based on history, I think we're only seeing the beginning of a new frontier! ...going where no man has gone before...

 

[rayzazoo]

Numbers will continue to increase especially as the merge between gas based and electrically based motors are used. There is already a 800+ lbs-ft Tesla electric out there.

I think the next initiative would be finding ways to improve tires/compounds/materials etc (or an alternative solution) on the road to efficiently handle the power that is coming out.

 

[JBS$]

No - the 16 cars may offer some different colors, but, that will be the only change. This could change slightly if drive line issues or something simular shows up.

 

[Fast cat]

No no need to it has more power than the car can put to the pavement .

 

[Deputydog]

I could see a small 20~40 HP bump in a few years but likely not in the 2016 model year.

 

[gts_2001]

No no need to it has more power than the car can put to the pavement .

Numbers will continue to increase especially as the merge between gas based and electrically based motors are used. There is already a 800+ lbs-ft Tesla electric out there.

I think the next initiative would be finding ways to improve tires/compounds/materials etc (or an alternative solution) on the road to efficiently handle the power that is coming out.

I have a feeling that they're already working on that. What better way to get to get months of attention at the kick-off of the car than to demonstrate it's ability to do incredible burn-outs? Smoke and Thunder...Shock and Awe?!!

 

[Jim Hetrick]

Should Dodge increase the HP it would be wise for them to make the increase available to current Hellcat owners so we can stay with the current HP ratings. I dont think it will happen, but would go a long way with current owners.

 

[gts_2001]

Should Dodge increase the HP it would be wise for them to make the increase available to current Hellcat owners so we can stay with the current HP ratings. I dont think it will happen, but would go a long way with current owners.

Firmware upgrade? Probably would'nt take much more!

 

[Byron Moore]

It is not a matter of government. They don't care as long as gas guzzler taxes are paid. We need to worry about insurance companies and affordability of the car. The price of this car allows less responsible younger owners. I am not saying any of us are not responsible, but when a guy wrecks one 4 hours after pickup it will reflect on us all. Much like the seventies, insurance companies can just make the car unaffordable. In light of that, I do see an increase coming, viper is rumored for 900-950 range very soon by supercharging v10. Chevy does and dodge will always battle for top spot. The hellcat from what I gather was more power than now and detuned for warranty and durability. I am quite sure engineers are working to solve those early issues and will be successful.

 

[huggytree]

2nd year gto saw the car go from a 5.7 to a 6.0...plus the hood scoop

i sure hope they dont do a hp bump....but it may happen depending on the GT500 and ZL1......Dodge hasnt really had much of a history of doing it every year.......my fingers are crossed that they wont until the current gen challenger is dead

i think they will focus on decal/sticker packages for $2k each.......i think you can expect that for sure next year

 

[goingsolo2]

Chrysler engineers have been working on the Hellcat engine since 2010-11. If anything, it would probably just be a reflash of the computer for 20-30 more horsepower. These cars are already making more power on the dyno than "707". To be honest, I think it was a marketing gimmick because "707" sounds and looks really cool. In reality, it's probably closer to the 750-760 range. That has been shown on the dyno and is probably one of the reasons cars are running 10.4-10.8 in the quarter mile with a stock car that has track tires and race fuel at the most. When you put the Hellcat along side another super car/muscle car with similar numbers or similar HP to weight ratios, it's more a matter of the driver, not of the actual car, especially on the track.

 

[Helldog]

I'm thinking Ford and maybe even GM will come out with something to trump the Hellcat HP wise. The HP war will continue between the big 3 until the government shuts it down just like in the early 70s. I don't think it will be too long before we see a 1000HP super car as long as things stay the way they are. I'm betting it will be a Shelby. Maybe a Shelby GT1000??? Too bad it will most likely be manual only and unable to get traction to truly use the power.

 

[magnummrk]

My guess is yes. It won't be for a few years if they continue with the car. 2008-2011 6.1 425. Then they did the 6.4 at 470

 

[Byron Moore]

And there is plenty of room to tub the rear and put 325 or 355 tires on it

 

[MoparProud]

707 upside down is LOL...laugh out loud.

I really think there's something there...LOL at the competition, government, naysayers that said it could be done and certainly not by Chrysler.

But I could be nuts and making stuff up too. Makes sense kind of though.

 

[Hemibuck]

I'm sure in time they will have a tuner available for those that really want more power. Like it was said above it's just a new map flash and instant power.