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Driveshaft... DSS or Wiles?

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Hey everyone, looking for advice. I have an original design DSS 4" aluminum driveshaft, and I wanted to know if the new design still has the old vibration issues. I also see that Wiles now has a 4' vs the 3.5". Does anyone have the new Wiles? if so, is there ANY vibration at highway speeds (60+). Looking to get as much info and recommendations as possible from people who have had both the new style DSS and new Wiles on their cars and have run the gambit with them. Thanks!
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I had a DSS, shook so bad couldn’t use the rear view mirror. Been running a 4” Wiles for almost 3 years now, had it up to 194 mph and it sees 145 at least once every time it’s out. Besides a 2 piece for 3 times the cash it’s battleship of a shaft.
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Has anyone heard of the redeye pr demon (same driveshaft) stock one pretzeling? I know the rear diffs grenade, but have the driveshafts been holding up?
I had a DSS, shook so bad couldn’t use the rear view mirror. Been running a 4” Wiles for almost 3 years now, had it up to 194 mph and it sees 145 at least once every time it’s out. Besides a 2 piece for 3 times the cash it’s battleship of a shaft.
Thanks man, really appreciate it. Now I know why dss ones are on sale for so cheap right now haha
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Has anyone heard of the redeye pr demon (same driveshaft) stock one pretzeling? I know the rear diffs grenade, but have the driveshafts been holding up?
Not so much, no, but not an option for us M6 guys.
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I run a bill Englewood in both my charger (before I sold) and in my challenger. I’ve been very satisfied
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I run a bill Englewood in both my charger (before I sold) and in my challenger. I’ve been very satisfied
Bill wnglewood? Not familiar with them. Do you have a link to their website?
What’s your experience with it? Aluminum or carbon fiber?
What’s your experience with it? Aluminum or carbon fiber?
Aluminum and I don't have any problems with it just perfect only driveshaft where I haven't heard a single complaint about vibrations unlike the DSS etc..
Aluminum and I don't have any problems with it just perfect only driveshaft where I haven't heard a single complaint about vibrations unlike the DSS etc..
That’s very good to know, I’ll look into them. Thanks for the info.
That’s very good to know, I’ll look into them. Thanks for the info.
Did you have to custom order it from them?
That’s very good to know, I’ll look into them. Thanks for the info.
No problem🤙
Did you have to custom order it from them?
just gotta call and ask if they have any in stock I waited awhile for mine but worth the wait knowing I wouldn't have any problems or vibrations at high speeds, the car is buttery smooth now.
just gotta call and ask if they have any in stock I waited awhile for mine but worth the wait knowing I wouldn't have any problems or vibrations at high speeds, the car is buttery smooth now.
Awesome. Can you tell me ballpark what yours cost? Any pics of it?
Awesome. Can you tell me ballpark what yours cost? Any pics of it?
about 12-15 hundred forget the exact price but definitely worth every penny. CCI 2015+ DODGE CHALLENGER HELLCAT AUTOMATIC DRIVESHAFT they have a few pics on here I do have one but its on my phone so I cant post it atm but ill post it later if you want a more up close view.
about 12-15 hundred forget the exact price but definitely worth every penny. CCI 2015+ DODGE CHALLENGER HELLCAT AUTOMATIC DRIVESHAFT they have a few pics on here I do have one but its on my phone so I cant post it atm but ill post it later if you want a more up close view.
Awesome thanks for the link just what I needed
I have installed the latest version of the DSS aluminium and I have almost no problems with it. I drive it on the German speed open "Autobahn" and everything is ok. The only thing is, since I installed the a other solid DiffBrace, I have had a slight vibration when taking the gas off at very high speeds, which are not so relevant in the USA ;) approx 140mph, but isn´t disturbing. At my cruising speed of 85mph everything is fine and on the country road between 40 and 65 mph everything is okay too.. Perhaps the new versions of the DSS are better than the older ones with the universal joint.
I was also skeptical at first whether the DS was good. I had got it cheaper and tested it and be happy with it.
Hey can you explain the difference in design besides wiles?
I know of no one that has had issues with the Livernois/CCI driveshaft, myself included. There have been reports of issues with DSS and Wiles driveshaft. Customer service is far better with Wiles than DSS though and among those two Wiles seems to have a more reliable product.
I know of no one that has had issues with the Livernois/CCI driveshaft, myself included. There have been reports of issues with DSS and Wiles driveshaft. Customer service is far better with Wiles than DSS though and among those two Wiles seems to have a more reliable product.
Thanks @Blkout . Does CCI make them for Livernois? Or are you saying you haven’t had/heard of issues from either of those 2?
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