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Driveshaft... DSS or Wiles?

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Hey everyone, looking for advice. I have an original design DSS 4" aluminum driveshaft, and I wanted to know if the new design still has the old vibration issues. I also see that Wiles now has a 4' vs the 3.5". Does anyone have the new Wiles? if so, is there ANY vibration at highway speeds (60+). Looking to get as much info and recommendations as possible from people who have had both the new style DSS and new Wiles on their cars and have run the gambit with them. Thanks!
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This thread is about Driveshafts.
The answer was to the OP.

Lol Not sure what your problem is and the sarcasm isn't appreciated.

Why would my statement be anything about referring to anything about axels?

Posting about what is in stock can be any company that sells aftermarket Driveshafts.

From what I've seen posted in several places about several brands of Driveshafts, many are out of stock.
The lead time to get them can be longer than someone wants to wait. Many products are also going up in price too. Supply and demand goes all the way through the supply chain starting with raw materials.


Linda :)
No sarcasm in there, yes conversation is on driveshafts that turned to Ujoints vs CV’s as some drive shafts use CV’s and some Ujoints and some a combination of both. The CV’s DSS uses in their driveshafts, both ends, is the same brand and the one I had at least 2 years back same size they use in their axles, not the strongest CV out there snd it didn’t last long either, maybe I should have been more clear in that comparison for those that don’t know that. If there was any hint of any sarcasm if may have been from hearing of the constant sales push towards HHP, they are not the saviors nor stocker of every Hellcat part, in fact everything I ever purchased from them never shipped from their location nor was it the lowest price, that I will point out to the OP since it was brought up, price shop, you’ll find it cheaper but I won’t argue “possibly” in stock and that may be worth a higher price to some true. My apologies but that is my experience not just with HHP but most all vendors selling things they claim is in stock, it MAYBE is in stock somewhere but not under the advertisers roof unless it’s custom to them parts they have made for themselves exclusively. Think of SpeedLogix, everyone’s favorite have everything in stock it just takes months to get sometimes. I just had this happen with these GForce axles, many claimed to advertise them as in stock but after they have your cc # or worse PayPal payment from your balance you then find out the part is really not in stock. This just happened to me with a radiator that I did find in stock elesewhere but had to go through the hassle of ordering it twice, canceling one order snd in doing this in the past have the first order then show up and have 2 items and the hassle and expense of returning one and tied up funds for weeks or months, this just happened with BMR parts. Trying to point that out too that yes in this time of roughness in the supply chain everywhere don’t just order off a website call and confirm stock first no matter the vendor. Trying to pass on experience is all, I see you supplied a phone number to do just that with, sorry it seemed to hit a nerve with your favorite vendor that was not my intention but to be called out as being sarcastic this is my reply to that. I’ll screen shot this post just in case it disappears.
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Linda :)
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I ordered a Wiles through HPP during their 4th of July sale. There's a 10 week lead time on them at this point but I don't mind the wait. I've read good reviews on Wiles and spoke to Ralph several times on thr phone. Great guy, very knowledgeable.
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I had the first direct bolt in from Wiles DS for my Challenger HC, & was responsible for the forum discount from him, so I know Ralph Wiles good, he's a good & easy guy to work with. My DS was great for about 2 years or so, many passes on it, the u joints finally wore out & had vibration. I'm now on the DSS dual cv joint direct bolt in & have had it for about 2 years or so now, still rock solid after many track passes. Both DS's are good but I'm digging the duel cv joints on the DSS, it's very smooth, it should last much longer than u joints that will need to be replaced if raced on a lot. Not going back.
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This thread is a wealth of good info as a DS is my next upgrade. Thanks fellas as I'm off to do some more research. 👍
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I am a banger car and was able to find a CCI new uninstalled from a member on here. Other than the clearance issues that every manufacturer has, this unit is awesome. No vibrations. Last I spoke with CCI they are not making driveshafts for the manual cats. If you are auto you should be all good, great product!

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I had a 3.5" Wiles and then a 4" Livernois/CCI and both were okay but had a little vibration at high speeds. Currently using a Demon/Redeye factory 2 piece and rolling smooth at any speed. According to guys like AJ Berge and Tim Barth there are several cars running this stock driveshaft running low 9s without any issues.
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I guess I got lucky. Ordered my Wiles from Barth, got it in 2 weeks. Was told it might be months.
I have my doubts if a factory 2 piece from a Demon or RedEye would stand up behind am M6 especially with a sticky track and tires.
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