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DSS states on their website " This set of axles has only one problem, they do not come with the ABS / Tone rings on them, but are machined for you to easily transfer over the rings from your stock axles." Saw a video where someone mentioned to be extremely careful as you can't order ABS tone rings for the Hellcat, you'd need another OEM axle.

Is it true there is no where to order OEM ABS tone rings? Found these..wondering if they'd work. Would prefer to just put on new rings vs. mess with swapping.
 

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DSS states on their website " This set of axles has only one problem, they do not come with the ABS / Tone rings on them, but are machined for you to easily transfer over the rings from your stock axles." Saw a video where someone mentioned to be extremely careful as you can't order ABS tone rings for the Hellcat, you'd need another OEM axle.

Is it true there is no where to order OEM ABS tone rings? Found these..wondering if they'd work. Would prefer to just put on new rings vs. mess with swapping.
When I installed GForce Renegade axles into a customers Redeye, they did not have the ABS rings either. Swapped them over from the OEM ones with no issue. Quick and easy. Just have to use a small punch and hammer and tap it off while working your way around the axle. Install to the aftermarket axles will be much easier, just lightly tap it on while working your way around the axle until it bottoms out.


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DSS states on their website " This set of axles has only one problem, they do not come with the ABS / Tone rings on them, but are machined for you to easily transfer over the rings from your stock axles." Saw a video where someone mentioned to be extremely careful as you can't order ABS tone rings for the Hellcat, you'd need another OEM axle.

Is it true there is no where to order OEM ABS tone rings? Found these..wondering if they'd work. Would prefer to just put on new rings vs. mess with swapping.
Those should work.
 
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HHP sells replacement tone rings if 1 breaks, use a piece of wood to tap them off & back on axles.
 
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Well everything was going smooth with the install last night. Then one of the tone rings decided to break when being tapped off. Other came off without an issue. Tried to be extremely careful but wasn't careful enough i suppose - Ordered the new abs tone rings from the link posted. Fingers crossed they do the trick with no lights on the dash..... Time crunch is on to make Dyno Day Friday August 7th. Can feel the pressure lol Do not want to miss this date. Would be the 3rd time cancelled...tuner is always booked out 2 weeks too. F


Edit: These companies should INCLUDE tone rings installed for the money. Kinda ridiculous IMO
 

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Well everything was going smooth with the install last night. Then one of the tone rings decided to break when being tapped off. Other came off without an issue. Tried to be extremely careful but wasn't careful enough i suppose - Ordered the new abs tone rings from the link posted. Fingers crossed they do the trick with no lights on the dash..... Time crunch is on to make Dyno Day Friday August 7th. Can feel the pressure lol Do not want to miss this date. Would be the 3rd time cancelled...tuner is always booked out 2 weeks too. F


Edit: These companies should INCLUDE tone rings installed for the money. Kinda ridiculous IMO
I used a block of wood and a dead blow hammer, light tap, slightly rotate axle light tap, etc., etc. I hope you have better luck with the new rings.
 

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Can anyone answer this question, is it normal to be able to move the axle slightly between the hub and the diff? Meaning is there some play in there? I noticed both of mine will move slightly between the hub and diff if I grab and try to move them. I also noticed that one of my driver side axle outer CV boot is torn. It doesn't appear that the DSS axles are full of nasty grease like the stock axles. When the stock axles tear a boot, they sling grease everywhere.
 

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Can anyone answer this question, is it normal to be able to move the axle slightly between the hub and the diff? Meaning is there some play in there? I noticed both of mine will move slightly between the hub and diff if I grab and try to move them. I also noticed that one of my driver side axle outer CV boot is torn. It doesn't appear that the DSS axles are full of nasty grease like the stock axles. When the stock axles tear a boot, they sling grease everywhere.
There should be little to no play in the CV, a bit in the diff yes but little to nothing in the Axle. If you take the tire off and rock the brake disc back and forth watch the inner hub it should move exactly along with the disc. My DSS axels did not last very long, I just installed new ones 2 weeks ago, took all the NVH out of the rear, they where the source of the noise and vibration and only 4,000 miles old, externally they looked like new yet. They are rebuildable though. See in this video the inner hub does not move while rocking the disc back and forth? That hub should follow the disc with little to no play, hope this helps.
 

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There should be little to no play in the CV, a bit in the diff yes but little to nothing in the Axle. If you take the tire off and rock the brake disc back and forth watch the inner hub it should move exactly along with the disc. My DSS axels did not last very long, I just installed new ones 2 weeks ago, took all the NVH out of the rear, they where the source of the noise and vibration and only 4,000 miles old, externally they looked like new yet. They are rebuildable though. See in this video the inner hub does not move while rocking the disc back and forth? That hub should follow the disc with little to no play, hope this helps.
Thanks I've had them on the car for almost a year now but I feel like I've noticed a slight vibration in the driver side rear around 60-70mph recently. I was looking around yesterday under the car and I noticed the driver side rear outer boot is completely torn all the way around. The movement I was referring to though was grabbing the axle shaft and moving back and forth between the hub and diff, it seems like they slide some, maybe an inch or two. I'll check today for any other movement like you described above.
 

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In/out movement normal. Back forth play needs to be looked for in their running position where the wear in the CV grooves makes it’s spot. When removed and laying straight on the floor there is zero play in the removed ones, you would think they are perfect.
Do you notice the noise more prominent when you let off the gas?
 

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In/out movement normal. Back forth play needs to be looked for in their running position where the wear in the CV grooves makes it’s spot. When removed and laying straight on the floor there is zero play in the removed ones, you would think they are perfect.
Do you notice the noise more prominent when you let off the gas?
I don't feel any vibration when cruising at 60 to 70 when letting off the gas, I only notice it when I provide slight throttle at that speed.
 

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Do you hear any clicking starting off? Like only 2-3 clicks? I started to hear that once in a while and then Noise and vibration started when decelerating most prominent when passing down through 100 then around 60.
 

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There should be little to no play in the CV, a bit in the diff yes but little to nothing in the Axle. If you take the tire off and rock the brake disc back and forth watch the inner hub it should move exactly along with the disc. My DSS axels did not last very long, I just installed new ones 2 weeks ago, took all the NVH out of the rear, they where the source of the noise and vibration and only 4,000 miles old, externally they looked like new yet. They are rebuildable though. See in this video the inner hub does not move while rocking the disc back and forth? That hub should follow the disc with little to no play, hope this helps.
What did DSS say about them wearing out in 4,000 miles?
 

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What did DSS say about them wearing out in 4,000 miles?
Mileage don’t matter, they where 14 months old, sorry Charlie out of warranty :(. Total rebuild on each is about $400. I bought a new set and will have these rebuilt for spares.
 

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I get that would at least hope that isn't normal. I will be looking into better axles and was leaning towards gforce. They too have a limited warranty on wear parts
 

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I get that would at least hope that isn't normal. I will be looking into better axles and was leaning towards gforce. They too have a limited warranty on wear parts
GForce’s are a fantastic product!


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I get that would at least hope that isn't normal. I will be looking into better axles and was leaning towards gforce. They too have a limited warranty on wear parts
Go with the GForce, they use their own custom manufactured CV’s, DSS uses off the shelf ones. GForce hubs are one piece, machined from a solid blank, DSS are 2 piece, their splines are welded in. GForce is superior all around. If I wasn’t already roped into the DSS ones I’d buy GForce Outlaw Axles
 

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Go with the GForce, they use their own custom manufactured CV’s, DSS uses off the shelf ones. GForce hubs are one piece, machined from a solid blank, DSS are 2 piece, their splines are welded in. GForce is superior all around. If I wasn’t already roped into the DSS ones I’d buy GForce Outlaw Axles
Even the GForce Renegade axles are great. I’ve had good experiences installing them on customer vehicles. Same with their 1 piece aluminum driveshaft


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Well the car's back together! Those aftermarket tone rings worked but reallyy sucked to install compared to OEM. Dodge will not sell tone rings separate from the axle.
Time will tell if they last.

 

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Well the car's back together! Those aftermarket tone rings worked but reallyy sucked to install compared to OEM. Dodge will not sell tone rings separate from the axle.
Time will tell if they last.

Glad to hear your back up and running. What was the issue with the aftermarket tone rings? I ask as my stock ones have been off and on 3 times now and was going to purchase a pair of these for my spare axles verse swapping them every time. What did they cost per pair and who’s did you use HHP?
 
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