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I was wondering if anyone had any comments or experiences with the new '21 Grand Cherokee L or the Chrysler Pacifica?

We're going to need something bigger for kid hauling duties and was considering those two.

I like the Grand Cherokee L and it's features, but with it loaded (with people) there isn't much room/storage left for anything is my main concern.
That's why I was wondering if the Pacifica kind of made more sense.
 

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No personal experience with the new Grand Cherokee, but I have to say the design studio really screwed that one up. The most recent version looked great, this new one is terrible...especially the nose.
 

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The Pacifica will have more room, just because it's designed for it. That said, I don't know that I could ever bring myself to buy a minivan for any reason... I won't even rent one..
 

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We had a durango for family hauling duties and it will work but it’s not ideal.

I now have a company mini van and I have always had a stigma many of us share for them. I tried to hang onto my GMC with everything I had even at 300k miles because I didn’t want a van lol. But man, the van is very nice. So much room. I honestly would rather drive that on a road trip vs anything else in our fleet including my trackhawk. So much room and visibility. I have back issues but I can run 450 miles between stops without much issue

The Pacifica is very nice but reliability leaves a little to be desired. Mine has had several issues already by 70k miles in a year. Most expensive was the power steering failure that cost $2100 to fix. The Honda vans drive very sporty for what they are and offer paddles, but their reliability isn’t great either for what Honda is known for. Best of luck with your decision!
 

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More room and comfort for sure in the Pacifica but when you go to sell/trade you'll lose your shirt. Jeeps hold their value ridiculously. You make the call.
 

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I've been the faithful owner of a 2018 Pacifica, I can tell you that I did my research and tested/rented all -available at the time- Minivans in the market and the Pacifica was the one with better styling, decent engine response, exceptional ride (doesn't feel like driving a Minivan at all) and certainly not even SUVs, crossovers can match the hauling space, passenger comfort and entertainment options. Appreciate things have changed since 2018 and there are more infotaiment and display options available in the market and from other manufacturers, but I would still go for a Pacifica instead of a Grand Cherokee L, mainly because space management the Pacifica is better and if you would like same amenities and features that the Pacifica offers then you have to pay the premium on the Grad Cherokee for being an SUV, in favor of the Grand Cherokee L, I'd say you can get the V8 5.7 and a much better 4x4 system vs AWD on a Pacifica, downside of Grand Cherokee L is that it'll be first year of production in the middle of a stupid "Pandemic"

I may add I'm working with Jake to try to snatch a 2021 Pacifica Limited, not going for the 2022s as they won't come with the Tri-Pane Panoramic sunroof (a must have from the Wife's wish list), they'll come with a dual pane, the Tri-Pane are being designated for the RAMs, Grand Cherokee L, Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer. Damn microchip (supply chain) shortage.

I'd suggest you to look for Minivan videos review on Youtube, I highly recommend SavageGeese channel, Mark and Jack are by far the best automotive Youtube reviewers in the business, they'll give you their straight non corporate driven/biased reviews and I belive they've got a video on every single minivan available in the market, they even have one for the Grand Cherokee L and they highly praised it.

One thing is for sure, you better hurry up because those 2021 are drying up fast for sure and dealers are being way too greedy...!

Good Luck on your search!
 

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There are much better minivans than Pacifica out there, so why would you limit yourself?
:unsure: Everything I've seen/read points to the Pacifica as THE minivan.

1. I get Employee pricing (that's ~$4,500 off)
2. I qualify for lease loyalty, and on the Limited there is a $8,850 rebate
3. A FCA dealer should give me more for my trade in (my Charger)

That said, during these times, I doubt that the pricing would be close to the Pacifica.
I only know of the Odyssey....which isn't too bad I guess, but don't know anything about.
Then the Sienna....no.
And then the new Kia Carnival, which looks cool but that's new and probably won't be cheap. Plus it's a Kia.
 

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No personal experience with the new Grand Cherokee, but I have to say the design studio really screwed that one up. The most recent version looked great, this new one is terrible...especially the nose.
You know I wasn't sure about the looks, but after seeing it in person....I liked it.
And the interior is really nice too.
It makes my wife's Traverse look like a turd, lol.....but it was $55k MSRP with the options/features I wanted.
 

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We had a durango for family hauling duties and it will work but it’s not ideal.
The Durango was the first thing to come to mind, but the 3rd row access seems bad. (we're expecting a 4th child)
Whereas on the Grand Cherokee L, BOTH captain chairs had the tilt & slide access to the 3rd row....where you can leave the car seat attached to the seat & it slide forward still.
I think the Durango only has fold & tumble access, right?
And then there isn't a "walk way" on the Durango either, to the third row (I believe?), whereas the Jeep has one.

Also the Durango seems to be on a life line, I believe.

Side note: Durango inventory is like non existent too.
 

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I've been the faithful owner of a 2018 Pacifica, I can tell you that I did my research and tested/rented all -available at the time- Minivans in the market and the Pacifica was the one with better styling, decent engine response, exceptional ride (doesn't feel like driving a Minivan at all) and certainly not even SUVs, crossovers can match the hauling space, passenger comfort and entertainment options. Appreciate things have changed since 2018 and there are more infotaiment and display options available in the market and from other manufacturers, but I would still go for a Pacifica instead of a Grand Cherokee L, mainly because space management the Pacifica is better and if you would like same amenities and features that the Pacifica offers then you have to pay the premium on the Grad Cherokee for being an SUV, in favor of the Grand Cherokee L, I'd say you can get the V8 5.7 and a much better 4x4 system vs AWD on a Pacifica, downside of Grand Cherokee L is that it'll be first year of production in the middle of a stupid "Pandemic"

I may add I'm working with Jake to try to snatch a 2021 Pacifica Limited, not going for the 2022s as they won't come with the Tri-Pane Panoramic sunroof (a must have from the Wife's wish list), they'll come with a dual pane, the Tri-Pane are being designated for the RAMs, Grand Cherokee L, Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer. Damn microchip (supply chain) shortage.

I'd suggest you to look for Minivan videos review on Youtube, I highly recommend SavageGeese channel, Mark and Jack are by far the best automotive Youtube reviewers in the business, they'll give you their straight non corporate driven/biased reviews and I belive they've got a video on every single minivan available in the market, they even have one for the Grand Cherokee L and they highly praised it.

One thing is for sure, you better hurry up because those 2021 are drying up fast for sure and dealers are being way too greedy...!

Good Luck on your search!
This was a great reply!

Well I was looking at a '21 Grand Cherokee Limited with pretty much every option ($55k) but with the V6.
Just EP pricing and $1000 in conquest lease cash....so not really a great or attractive lease to be honest.

Hemis are like non-existent (currently in inventory) and you have to step up to the Overland and you're easily at $60k+ and $700+/month to lease with just a V6 on the Overland. No thanks.

I do like the GCL and it's features though, and it's really nice. BUT with all the seats loaded, there'd be like no room for storage or anything--that's my fear. Just a stroller alone would fill the "cargo area" behind the 3rd row....which is crazy in a vehicle that big.
I don't even know how we could take a small trip somewhere with it, if we had it.

I haven't looked at a Pacifica Limited in person/checked it out, but I'm 99% sure that there is more room & functionality in it.
And the Limited seems to be fully loaded with every stupid option you could want or need, lol.

Plus in the GCL, the 2 kids would literally be side by side in the back. Whereas in the Pacifica, it's a 3 person rear seat....and while 3 won't sit back there, it's better (IMO) to have that small buffer zone between the kids instead of not having one at all.

I'm going to go this morning to go look at a '21 Limited with the S package. Current inventory is pretty low, BUT there are a bunch (of 2021's) that are in transit or being built for the dealers though.

I already read that the prices are going to go up for the 2022's, and they have the $8850 lease rebate on the Limited right now....so that's motivating me to pull the trigger earlier.

I'm trying to think rationally here....so I'm swaying towards the Pacifica at the moment.
Is it a dream vehicle? Nope.
Is it more functional/practical? Yup

I'm gonna put the Jeep GCL and a Pacifica next to each other and see what the wife thinks too.
 

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This was a great reply!

Well I was looking at a '21 Grand Cherokee Limited with pretty much every option ($55k) but with the V6.
Just EP pricing and $1000 in conquest lease cash....so not really a great or attractive lease to be honest.

Hemis are like non-existent (currently in inventory) and you have to step up to the Overland and you're easily at $60k+ and $700+/month to lease with just a V6 on the Overland. No thanks.

I do like the GCL and it's features though, and it's really nice. BUT with all the seats loaded, there'd be like no room for storage or anything--that's my fear. Just a stroller alone would fill the "cargo area" behind the 3rd row....which is crazy in a vehicle that big.
I don't even know how we could take a small trip somewhere with it, if we had it.

I haven't looked at a Pacifica Limited in person/checked it out, but I'm 99% sure that there is more room & functionality in it.
And the Limited seems to be fully loaded with every stupid option you could want or need, lol.

Plus in the GCL, the 2 kids would literally be side by side in the back. Whereas in the Pacifica, it's a 3 person rear seat....and while 3 won't sit back there, it's better (IMO) to have that small buffer zone between the kids instead of not having one at all.

I'm going to go this morning to go look at a '21 Limited with the S package. Current inventory is pretty low, BUT there are a bunch (of 2021's) that are in transit or being built for the dealers though.

I already read that the prices are going to go up for the 2022's, and they have the $8850 lease rebate on the Limited right now....so that's motivating me to pull the trigger earlier.

I'm trying to think rationally here....so I'm swaying towards the Pacifica at the moment.
Is it a dream vehicle? Nope.
Is it more functional/practical? Yup

I'm gonna put the Jeep GCL and a Pacifica next to each other and see what the wife thinks too.

Try to rent one and take it to a weekend road trip with the family, that should help you out to have a great idea of what to expect. I did recently rented a 2021 Touring L and compared to mine (2018 Limited with Uconnect and safety tech) I can tell you that by default even the Touring L has Safety Tech available (sans 360 view), it won't have the tri-pane sunroof (best feature) and rental units won't have Uconnect (a must have with Children) but aside of those two the Touring L is pretty much the same as the 2018 Limited.

In regards to incentives on GCL... It doesn't surprise me:

  1. It's a brand new model
  2. We are in the middle of Global Supply Chain Crisis
So if you can get EP pricing and that lease conquest... that's better than what the majority of people are closing deals in today's market.

If you go for the Pacifica let me know how it goes with the $8,850 lease rebate... I'm also banking on that rebate too (If I can find a Pacifica Limited first...)

Good luck!
 

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aside of those two the Touring L is pretty much the same as the 2018 Limited.
For 2021, I "believe" the bigger differences are:
-AWD standard on the Limited
-Better (Alpine?) stereo on the Limited
-Navigation on the Limited (I think?)
-Cooled seats on the Limited
-Better/different leather on the Limited
-Power folding 3rd row on the Limited
-Better front center console on the Limited with the wireless charging pad
-The tri pane sunroof on the Limited
-Power folding mirrors
-Maybe the parking camera(s)?
Then some other minor stuff

Plus the Limited has the $8850 lease loyalty rebate, versus "just" the $4650 on the Touring L.
So, basically, you can get the way better equipped Limited for the same price on a lease (or less) as the lesser equipped Touring L
 

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For anyone following this....

I ran into one local (big) dealer that said they wouldn't take Employee Pricing (EP), except on a ordered car.
But there are lots of other dealers around me that will....inventory is just still low but getting replenished as the factory is back up and running.

But then I ran into this dealer, in Ohio, that wouldn't take EP and wanted to take it a step further and ask $2k over MSRP on a frickin' Pacifica minivan :eek::rolleyes:
 

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Anyone have thoughts on, or experience with, the Pacifica Hybrid?
 
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