[HellcatHellYeah]

With the way things shook out it doesn't look like I'll replace my HC anytime soon. If anyone is buying or has bought a 21' or later HCWB RE or JB I would like the opportunity to purchase when/if you decide to sell in the future. I attached the build sheet, below are the most important options. I'm looking at 3-5 years from now, not looking for a garage queen at that point so expect to have been well driven but in good condition.

Granite Crystal
Sepia
HK Upgrade
Warp speed
black out badging

 

[Reaperhwk]

Sorry can't help you, have a black one................

 

[2ndAmend]

Not what you are looking for but I plan to sell my 2020 M6 in 2023 or 2024. I expect the market to peak in 2023 after orders close.

 

[snobrdrdan]

OP is looking for a Charger...
The first two guys to respond post Challengers

 

[SickToo]

A charger?

At least he got the color right : )

 

[Reaperhwk]

I like any excuse to post my cars picture. 😄

 

[furious70]

Cool, now we're selling futures for hellcats, because the market wasn't froathy enough!

 

[White Trash]

OP just keep your eyes open.
2023 models will be selling well below msrp

 

[Unavowed]

OP just keep your eyes open.
2023 models will be selling well below msrp

 

[baabootoo]

Hmmmmmmmmmm. If you're really nice to me here, I may just leave you mine in my will. You must be REALLY nice and protect me from the trolls........

 

[2ndAmend]

OP is looking for a Charger...
The first two guys to respond post Challengers

Which is why my post begins: "Not what you are looking for but..."

 

[JMAbacus]

OP just keep your eyes open.
2023 models will be selling well below msrp

Very few on this forum payed ADM and and quite a few were less than MSRP for the 21's and 22's. Those that financed had rates as low as 3.5%. So now we predict a line will form to pay ADM and finance cars at 8%? Not that many RdNecks with cash looking for another HC IMO. They already have one if they wanted it. I did, and got it for well below invoice. The big money guys in my little city already have multiple HC's. One elderly guy has 7 HC's (and lots of other vehicles). The biggest high roller has two Hellcats and two Demons. His daily is a Plaid, C8, truck, or a custom Benz van if he's riding with his Belgian Malinois . Lost interest in his Ferraris and Lambos for whatever reason and let them all go. He's moved on and awaiting delivery on one of the first Z06 C8's. Wouldn't be interested in a decal package and dash plaque. Nothing special about the last year other than more price increases. And if the economy goes soft all bets are out the window IMO.

 

[White Trash]

JM totally disagree.
90% pay ADM.
Including yourself.
Very small extremely small walk out with no ADM.

 

[hell on wheels]

JM totally disagree.
90% pay ADM.
Including yourself.
Very small extremely small walk out with no ADM.

Most people pay a lender an Added mark up
In price.

 

[JMAbacus]

JM totally disagree.
90% pay ADM.
Including yourself.
Very small extremely small walk out with no ADM.

Ah, Mr. Trash. I have the window sticker in my hand from DC. The total price was $91,000 even - there was nothing added past the factory items, destination and gas guzzler tax. I have my contract in hand. Follow closely. The vehicle price was $83,675.57. The doc fee was $599.00. That's a total delivered price of $84,274.57. Tax is for SC (not on DC) but it was $500. My tag, title transfer, and registration was $75.00. So my total OTD was $84,849.57. I had put down a $500 deposit two months prior to delivery so I cut a check for $84,349.57. There was no upsell for anything. I paid cash. What part of this is difficult to grasp? DC advertised 4% below invoice on NBRE's and several other models for quite some time. I ended up a little better than that because the MSRP jumped about 1K from order to delivery. So, I'm over 6.1K under MSRP INCLUDING all DOC fees, Sales tax, Tag, and Title Transfer.
So what? I have seen a boatload of contracts on this board that were better than mine. Go look at Mr. Shepard's. My JB order (that did get cancelled) was over 5% below invoice at a different dealer. The 4.5-5% below invoice was the standard deal at Koons and DC through early spring. I looked at a row of HC's out the front window at DC when I was signing my paperwork. He said every car on the front lot is a sold order. The transport trucks come every day and haul them all over the US. They seldom see a customer. What do you think is driving this? They just drew the name DC out of a hat and thought it would be a good spot to transport a car from? Dad Gum, it's not that hard to understand.

 

[MJS73]

Based on early crop reports I am buying April Hellcat futures.

 

[JMAbacus]

Most people pay a lender an Added mark up
In price.

Of course you are correct on that HOW. I paid in cash - more specifically a cashiers check drawn from my checking account. We talk on this board ad nauseam about cash buyers. What is the percentage that are cash buyers? No clue, but Joe Six Pack is not going to be financing Jack Squat at the 8% APR that will arrive in a month. That was my point to begin with, the pool of buyers is shrinking which MAY affect prices down the line depending on the economy. Your point is quite valid, I have no idea why White Trash wants to call me a liar when I have the same deal that multiple other board posters have gotten.

 

[furious70]

Based on early crop reports I am buying April Hellcat futures.

I'm putting my charger in the silo for the winter and buying June DDHC futures. Demand will wane for new cars with ADM and I'll find the perfect trade in for DDHC with a white trash better then power dollars deal!

 

[HellcatHellYeah]

Most people can't drop $90Kin cash on a car so I do expect sales to be soft in 2023 with 5% or more in finance interest. I still don't get how the Fed raises the Prime rate 1-1 1/2% but rates go up 4-5%. As I won't be looking to replace mine for at least a couple of years, I'm stuck with buying used so just trying to find similar builds that when the time comes for them to sell I'll get a notice and maybe we can both be happy. Unfortunately, everyone is complaining how much these cars cost now but think they can flip for 15% over MSRP. If gas doesn't come down significantly, I expect the EV/Hybrid market will be the only segment with increased sales volume and the ICE cars will continue to disappear or be changed over to EV/Hybrid platforms.

 

[Reaperhwk]

Most people can't drop $90Kin cash on a car so I do expect sales to be soft in 2023 with 5% or more in finance interest. I still don't get how the Fed raises the Prime rate 1-1 1/2% but rates go up 4-5%. As I won't be looking to replace mine for at least a couple of years, I'm stuck with buying used so just trying to find similar builds that when the time comes for them to sell I'll get a notice and maybe we can both be happy. Unfortunately, everyone is complaining how much these cars cost now but think they can flip for 15% over MSRP. If gas doesn't come down significantly, I expect the EV/Hybrid market will be the only segment with increased sales volume and the ICE cars will continue to disappear or be changed over to EV/Hybrid platforms.

I disagree. THey will sell out real quick.. Lots of money out there for 100k+ cars that people want. Dodge doesn't have a demand issue, they will sell every car they make. And there are plenty of buyers with $$$ out there waiting.

I would say that the whole year of allocations will be taken in the first 3 months.