[Unholy707]

Then why do they sell pulleys that spin it way faster lol

 

[Unholy707]

Yes, I drill everything out lol. Here’s my inlet and out coolant fittings for on the Whipple, which you think is going to flow more?? As supplied or as Mike modified? .620 ID as supplied, .710 ID now.

View attachment 608672 View attachment 608673 View attachment 608674

“Mike modified”. Love it lol

 

[Unholy707]

Sounds like Whipple started with billet rotors, then hopped over to cast rotors to save a buck. Bait and switch?
There are some threads on here about the TVS2650. I find it odd that the strength of the rotors evidently suddenly plummeted.
By math, centrifugal force on a 24kRPM rotor will be 77.7 percent higher than on the 18kRPM rotor. (33 percent more RPM, 1.33333 squared.)
It sounds like they went with cheaper rotor material.

Whipple rotors are billet. It’s the case and bearing plate that’s not which is where the issues ALWAYS are

 

[Unholy707]

Unfortunately hellcats are an afterthought for all these companies, even still today. Mustangs are #1 priority, and I guess that comes just from production numbers

 

[Unholy707]

they do want a piece of the hellcat pie. They rushed with the 4.5 offering - half baked concept. Thought they had it all figured out with the 3.0 especially since they kept delaying production of it

 

[Unholy707]

TVS the issue is with the rear cog system (surprise)

 

[Vet Rider]

Maybe we need a thread dedicated to the TVS 2650 then. Winner will be whichever vendor sorts out their product issues first... lots of business to be won and lost...

Trust me the maggie 2650 is far superior. The LT1/4 community almost exclusively run the 2650 (as do I), and they make the most power and have the largest and most effective cooling bricks of any blower so far.

 

[Unholy707]

Trust me the maggie 2650 is far superior. The LT1/4 community almost exclusively run the 2650 (as do I), and they make the most power and have the largest and most effective cooling bricks of any blower so far.

View attachment 608677

Apples and oranges. The 2650 for the hellcat is a completely different system. It’s a rear cog setup.

 

[Unholy707]

2650 is also smaller displacement than the whipple 3.0, but the TVS rotor design is superior. If they didn’t make it rear cog driven it may have been the clear winner

 

[m.p.l]

Can you post a screen shot of that Facebook comment please? I may need it if they give me crap on spinning my blower too fast as it only sees WOT for less than 6 seconds most times and less then 11 in a 1/4.

 

[16GoManGoHC]

View attachment 608698

THANK YOU!!👍🏻👍🏻

 

[vegasconnorlv]

Snapped the end of the crankshaft off on the way home from the track. See it laying down there with the double timing chain gear on it? Trashed the entire engine, block and all.
View attachment 608661 View attachment 608662

Wow!! That hurts to see as I am already on engine number 2. Did you have the crank pinned?

 

[Spoolin]

Snapped the end of the crankshaft off on the way home from the track. See it laying down there with the double timing chain gear on it? Trashed the entire engine, block and all.
View attachment 608661 View attachment 608662

Snapped the end of the crankshaft off on the way home from the track. See it laying down there with the double timing chain gear on it? Trashed the entire engine, block and all.
View attachment 608661 View attachment 608662

Wow! How did that even happen?

 

[juanagofast]

Snapped the end of the crankshaft off on the way home from the track. See it laying down there with the double timing chain gear on it? Trashed the entire engine, block and all.
View attachment 608661 View attachment 608662

Recently?

 

[hpindy]

“Mike modified”. Love it lol

I know right

Sent from my SM-S901W using Tapatalk

 

[16GoManGoHC]

Wow!! That hurts to see as I am already on engine number 2. Did you have the crank pinned?

That was a Coyote Aluminator motor in a Mustang with a gen 3 Whipple. He now runs a crank support on the replacement motor to keep this from happening again.

 

[Diavolo]

I hear Maggie is good on HCs. I haven't heard of any problems either. My 2 cents sir...

 

[davemvegas]

Hey guys I wanted to reach out and see if anyone else has switched to a Gen 5 Whipple 3.0 on their hellcats or Gen 3 hemi and have had any issues? I have seen more than one failure from friends and acquaintances recently and when they talked to Whipple apparently they will not warranty a GEN 5 Unit that has signs of "over spinning" and that over spinning is 18,000 RPM or more. They said if I plan on running more than 18,000 rpm I should buy spare whipple superchargers and switch them out to be rebuilt periodically.

This unit was touted as being able to spin faster and longer then previous units and could be run 22,000-24,000 rpm plus with no issues. I am currently running around 18,200 with my setup and making the same boost as my stock un ported hellcat blower did at 21,462 RPM redline. I didn't want to push the stocker any further so I upgraded. I have built motor all supporting mods to support some serious boost and now I'm thinking I should have went another route.

Is anyone else running a Gen 5 and if so what's your pulley combo/rpm you are running? How many passes/miles do you have on your setup?

I have a Gen 5 3.0 on my Redeye. Was running good but started rattling at idle with 3000 miles on it. I run ATI 10% lower with a 3.750 upper on 93 oct. Swap to a 3.250 on E85. I filled out the form on Whipple's webpage. Tech asked me to send a video with car running at idle. I told tech it sounded like the noise was in the snout area. I asked if Whipple has upgrade bearings for snout and i think i am capable of replacing the snout bearings myself. Tech said it did not sound like snout bearings to him. He advised me to request a return number and send it to Whipple for inspection. The return number did not come with a prepaid shipping label. I pulled blower off at 3500 miles and shipped it ground shipping and $6000 insurance. Cost $245 to ship and took 7 days to travel from FL to Ca. It arrived at Whipple on the 23rd, 2 days before Thanksgiving. On Mon the 28th and Wed the 30th, I sent email asking what they found to the same one that the tech used when asking for a video. I did not get a reply. I called Whipple on Thursday Dec 1st and i was transferred to Mike. After a short hold he came back to the phone. He said case was bad and new case was being powder coated today. Should ship out Mon. Mon my email alerted me that Fed Ex was going to deliver a 75lb package Wed by 8pm. Supercharger was delivered Wed afternoon. My Whipple had very little wear on the rotors. Fixed blower looks like it may be a new one or they recoated the rotors and replaced the case. Whipple covered the 2 day priority return shipping. Sent new gaskets, seals and oil. So i feel that Whipple scores a 10 for quick turnaround time and no hassle warranty. I am hoping the case problem has been redesigned so it does not start rattling again in a few thousand miles when it is out of warranty.

 

[m.p.l]

I hear Maggie is good on HCs. I haven't heard of any problems either. My 2 cents sir...

How many people have them?
I have had a maggie, it was not a bad one but the COG Style and the upper pulley Position was not the best idea. I have had many Problems with belt slip and the belt in the back needs a lot of attention.

 

[Spoolin]

I have a Gen 5 3.0 on my Redeye. Was running good but started rattling at idle with 3000 miles on it. I run ATI 10% lower with a 3.750 upper on 93 oct. Swap to a 3.250 on E85. I filled out the form on Whipple's webpage. Tech asked me to send a video with car running at idle. I told tech it sounded like the noise was in the snout area. I asked if Whipple has upgrade bearings for snout and i think i am capable of replacing the snout bearings myself. Tech said it did not sound like snout bearings to him. He advised me to request a return number and send it to Whipple for inspection. The return number did not come with a prepaid shipping label. I pulled blower off at 3500 miles and shipped it ground shipping and $6000 insurance. Cost $245 to ship and took 7 days to travel from FL to Ca. It arrived at Whipple on the 23rd, 2 days before Thanksgiving. On Mon the 28th and Wed the 30th, I sent email asking what they found to the same one that the tech used when asking for a video. I did not get a reply. I called Whipple on Thursday Dec 1st and i was transferred to Mike. After a short hold he came back to the phone. He said case was bad and new case was being powder coated today. Should ship out Mon. Mon my email alerted me that Fed Ex was going to deliver a 75lb package Wed by 8pm. Supercharger was delivered Wed afternoon. My Whipple had very little wear on the rotors. Fixed blower looks like it may be a new one or they recoated the rotors and replaced the case. Whipple covered the 2 day priority return shipping. Sent new gaskets, seals and oil. So i feel that Whipple scores a 10 for quick turnaround time and no hassle warranty. I am hoping the case problem has been redesigned so it does not start rattling again in a few thousand miles when it is out of warranty.

That's some good info right there.

BTW, I'm sure your warranty for this issue starts all over from the time of this repair. So I wouldn't worry about it if you get the same issue down the road, other than it being a huge hassle removing and things. Whipple should cover the repair again for the life of you owning it, now that they know of this initial issue and repair.