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Hellcat 1/4mi - 10.483 @ 133.53 - Drag Tires and VP MS109 Race Fuel

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Here are the weather/DA data along with corrected times:

Background: Edinburg Raceway is located in the deep South of Texas. The 1/4mi track is part of an airport. The 1/4mi track faces a North West direction with the start point in the South and end point at the North.





Edinburg, TX Raceway
1/6/2015
6:25pm

48 deg F
71% humidity
30.43 barometric pressure
96ft Track Elevation
Wind: Calm
Wind Dir: Calm
Density Altitude: -1093 feet

Nitto 555r 275/40/20 (17 psi tire pressure) and VP MS109 Race Fuel (Phantom Black Car)
8-speed Automatic
Black Laguna Leather Seats
NAV:




Edinburg, TX Raceway
1/5/2015
5:18pm

53.1 deg F
57% humidity
30.51 barometric pressure
96ft Track Elevation
Wind: 10.4mph
Wind direction: North to South (Track Head Wind)
Density Altitude: -843 feet

All Stock:
Pirelli PZero (stock tires) 275/40/20 and 93 Octane Fuel (Ivory White Pearl Car)
8-speed Automatic
Ruby Red Leather Trimmed Seats
NAV:





Drag Tire and VP MS109 Race Fuel Time corrects to:
10.52 @ 133.175 MPH


Stock Time corrects to:
11.077 @ 125.974 MPH



Discussion and Key Notes:
There is a difference of 0.155s between stock and drag tire '60ft.
No Nitrous was used.
The Pearl White Challenger Hellcat is stock, 8-speed automatic and modified only with VPMS109 Race Fuel.
The Phantom Black Challenger Hellcat is stock, 8-speed automatic and modified only with Nitto 555r 275/40/20 tires and VP MS109 Race Fuel.

"An important thing to note also is that he said they did not start getting good times / hookups until they turned the stability control completely off. He said once they got that off (which required them to hold the button for 8 seconds), then they started getting good runs. So the car was in track mode and stability control was turned completely off and this was a require,ent to get the car to start hooking up properly.

Driver confirmed that he put the car in track mode and turned stability control off. No other changes to suspension.

Launched as close as possible stalling it to 2000 rpm. Launch control NOT used.

Lastly, the driver used the paddles to get the best times out of it!! His shift rpm was 6200 RPM when he hit the paddle." ~cerino2000

Interesting to note that the driveshaft is just 'slicks and race fuel away from twisting! Detroit overnighted a new Driveshaft for the twisted one.


Here is a user picture taken the night of the 1/16/2015 race by another forum member of the modified Black Hellcat. They posted it around 9:20pm that night as well as talked to the owner who confirmed MS109 race fuel and tires as the only mods.

Hehe, the amount of skepticism is hilarious and amazing how much buzz this is creating in the performance car world.

Key world: LEGENDARY :eek:

Your mind whispers to you.."It cant be coming that fast ..the calculations don't add up.....don't worry....it's not real." But your eyes....ohhh your lying eyes.....see the demon...about to have you for a snack.......

Hehe sorry, just enjoying the moment that a Hellcat, at 4449lbs, can run a 10.48 @ 133mph.



Driveshaft #1


Driveshaft #1 (2nd view)


Driveshaft #2


Based on the weather data for both days, the wind conditions were calm at the time they ran the 133 mph run on 1/6/2015. For the 126 mph run on 1/5/2015, winds were out of the North to South at 10.4mph.

The track is a Southward to North-Westward facing track meaning both runs would be going into the wind, except there was no wind on the 1/6/2015 133mph run. Between the better 60ft and no head wind, that could account for another 0.2s in the 1/4mi and definitely account for the big gap between final ET MPH.

No doubt, when they ran the 133mph run, conditions were damn near perfect!
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Here is the weather/DA data along with corrected times:

Edinburg, TX Raceway
1/6/2015
6:25pm

48 deg F
71% humidity
30.43 barometric pressure
96ft Track Elevation
Density Altitude: -1093 feet

Drag Tires and VP MS109 Race Fuel (Black Car):




Edinburg, TX Raceway
1/5/2015
5:18pm

53.1 deg F
57% humidity
30.51 barometric pressure
96ft Track Elevation
Density Altitude: -843 feet

Stock Tires (White Car):




Drag Tire and VP MS109 Race Fuel Time corrects to:
10.52 @ 133.175 MPH


Stock Time corrects to:
11.077 @ 125.974 MPH


There is a difference of 0.155s between stock and drag tire '60ft.

Interesting to note that the driveshaft is just 'slicks and race fuel away from twisting! Detroit overnighted a new Driveshaft for the twisted one.
I LIKE VERY MUCH!!!! Just wait till these babies are dialed in this Spring and Summer!:D
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MS 109 does not add HP unless you throw timing at the car which I don't think you can do that yet. So it means nothing unless the car is knocking with 93 and taking time out. then the 109 could stop the knock and keep the timing in it which would help it run a better number. Personally I don't see the car knocking with 93 in it.
I won't disagree with this or agree with it till I run my own car the same way. Looks to me like it probably had a small N2O shot less than 100
This numbers are amazing. Hellcat baby !!!!!!!!!!
Wow... Simply amazing numbers for a car with virtually no mods and still retains its warranty.
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Wow... I'm so happy to see the car on stock tires hooking up as well as it did. Finally, some real numbers to back up Dodges claim.

The 133mph trap speed for the cat on slicks suggests there's a little more going on than just fuel and slicks. Compared to the cat on stock tires running 11 flat, the faster time with just slicks and fuel changed could be plausible... but i wouldn't expect such a huge increase in trap speed. In any case... That's a badass time!

Thanks for sharing!
There has been a few people mention it's running n20. First question, won't you get better then half a sec with it.. second question, is it not possible to go faster in the 1/4 when your all hooked up,, dodge originally got 10.8 with DRs, never said there trap speed, only street tires was 125, so full slicks maybe can get you that extra 7 to 8 mph, and .30 times
There has been a few people mention it's running n20. First question, won't you get better then half a sec with it.. second question, is it not possible to go faster in the 1/4 when your all hooked up,, dodge originally got 10.8 with DRs, never said there trap speed, only street tires was 125, so full slicks maybe can get you that extra 7 to 8 mph, and .30 times
look at 60 foot times that is all tire.
Here is the weather/DA data along with corrected times:

Edinburg, TX Raceway
1/6/2015
6:25pm

48 deg F
71% humidity
30.43 barometric pressure
96ft Track Elevation
Density Altitude: -1093 feet

Drag Tires and VP MS109 Race Fuel (Black Car):




Edinburg, TX Raceway
1/5/2015
5:18pm

53.1 deg F
57% humidity
30.51 barometric pressure
96ft Track Elevation
Density Altitude: -843 feet

Stock Tires (White Car):




Drag Tire and VP MS109 Race Fuel Time corrects to:
10.52 @ 133.175 MPH


Stock Time corrects to:
11.077 @ 125.974 MPH


There is a difference of 0.155s between stock and drag tire '60ft.

Interesting to note that the driveshaft is just 'slicks and race fuel away from twisting! Detroit overnighted a new Driveshaft for the twisted one.
Sorry to hear about your driveshaft....what size slicks and rims did you have on it?
This is good news(if it is true)
rayzazoo were both those cars automatics?
That's more like 800 HP. Seems like it's been tweaked a bit or its a ringer from the factory. Taking note that the driveshaft is a weak point.
Sorry to hear about your driveshaft....what size slicks and rims did you have on it?
Not my car; just gathering the info available.

Also looking to confirm the builds with RS.
Here are the weather/DA data along with corrected times:

Edinburg, TX Raceway
1/6/2015
6:25pm

48 deg F
71% humidity
30.43 barometric pressure
96ft Track Elevation
Density Altitude: -1093 feet

Drag Tires and VP MS109 Race Fuel (Black Car):




Edinburg, TX Raceway
1/5/2015
5:18pm

53.1 deg F
57% humidity
30.51 barometric pressure
96ft Track Elevation
Density Altitude: -843 feet

Stock Tires (White Car):




Drag Tire and VP MS109 Race Fuel Time corrects to:
10.52 @ 133.175 MPH


Stock Time corrects to:
11.077 @ 125.974 MPH


There is a difference of 0.155s between stock and drag tire '60ft.

Interesting to note that the driveshaft is just 'slicks and race fuel away from twisting! Detroit overnighted a new Driveshaft for the twisted one.
Im curious .what slicks did you use ...street drag radials? What size fits ....i wsnted to put nitto nt305 315 20s but they may not fit.i ordered micky t street drag radials.205 20s sitting in storage waiting for my car
Rhuz cat, what did you find out about your car?
Rhuz cat, what did you find out about your car?
Everytime i say something i get in trouble on here ill let you know ..
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Look up the track on FB you'll see who owns the cars 1 stock 1 modified they're shooting for better times with both cars today and will have videos and details about the cars there.
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Everytime i say something i get in trouble on here ill let you know ..
It's nothing personal against you. We're just really protective of Resume Speed. You have to realize that he's the only one that has given any of us reliable information on the Hellcats at all. While we were all waiting on the very first release of the car, Resume Speed was here keeping all of us somewhat sane lol. So it's nothing personal against you. :)
There has been a few people mention it's running n20. First question, won't you get better then half a sec with it.. second question, is it not possible to go faster in the 1/4 when your all hooked up,, dodge originally got 10.8 with DRs, never said there trap speed, only street tires was 125, so full slicks maybe can get you that extra 7 to 8 mph, and .30 times
"Usually" when you add a better tire and get traction the MPH goes down with the ET.
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