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Hey there everyone! I’ve had my hellcat for 2 years and it’s been stock except for deleted mid pipe and jlt intake and the jlt catch can. I have extended warranty and it has replaced my supercharger when it went out at 40k miles. Car now has 59k
Car starting to feel slow for some reason. What pulley can I go with to gain some good horsepower but can stay on stock fuel pumps and injectors at this time?
Any help would be much appreciated and if anyone has done it what power did you make. Thanks
 

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thanks for the reply. Yea I was thinking about instead of taking off the lid and all that crazy stuff for something easier for now just a 10% lower and tune I’m thinking should be good for 60-100hp gains most likely. Also was considering e85 for extra power when I want it but I don’t think the stock injectors could handle that. I don’t race much or anything but like to do a few mods for some more power
 

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Funny I should come across this post. I too have a 2021 Charger Hellcat Redeye (20 months old) with 1400 miles. and "IF" I was to sell the car. Is it best to leave the car stock or do the 6k up grades for more HP and I have been thinking about. Some buyers want stock and others can deal with HP upgrades. So just asking for opinions. THX ALL
 

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Funny I should come across this post. I too have a 2021 Charger Hellcat Redeye (20 months old) with 1400 miles. and "IF" I was to sell the car. Is it best to leave the car stock or do the 6k up grades for more HP and I have been thinking about. Some buyers want stock and others can deal with HP upgrades. So just asking for opinions. THX ALL
Most people want a bone stock hellcat so they know it’s not ragged on really. If I do anything I’m not going for crazy power. Most likely just 10% lower and tune and that’s it for now. Hell I have fun with the stock it has and I’ve had the car for 2 years
 

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The problem with modded cars isn't so much that it's modded. People often look for a car with more power for that reason. The problem in selling a modded car is you have to have good documentation and references to make the car marketable. Simply dropping a modded car with a long list of mods for sale is doing nobody any good, this is including the seller. The biggest problem with a modded car is when something goes wrong with it. For example, a CEL shows up and it's warning against some type of fuel delivery problem. If you don't have the exact breakdown of the build, you'll spend time trying to figure out of it's a fuel pump, injector, problem with the spark plug or the tune. If you don't have documentation or references to help you blueprint the build, trying to sort out a common problem can turn into a complex task that costs a lot of money.

Of course, similarly with large builds, not all builds are quality builds. On the S550 Mustang, for example, I've seen numerous issues where people with an aftermarket blower would bring their car in with multi cylinder misfires. More often than not, I'd pull the plugs and only 6 would be one step colder plugs. The back 2, which can be a PITA to get to, are often left stock by some two-cent mod shops. I've also seen a lot of people claiming their car had an aftermarket cam, only to find that it was just a ghost cam tune. Thus, when a person buys a modded car, they're also buying the work the owner or a shop did on the car... potential cut corners and and all. I

This is what turns a lot of people off to modded cars. We don't mind modding cars usually, but people like me have problems with other peoples' work. I have never bought a modded car from an owner who didn't know the build inside and out. For example, the type of person who pays a shop 20 grand to build their car, then they drive it 5 times a year and don't really know anything about what was done and why. If the car ever has an issue, I'd basically be left at square one trying to decipher what the heck was done, really. That's because more often than not, what the owner says was done is usually not really what was done in its entirety. On modded cars, there's a lot of devils in a lot of details on some of them.
 

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Funny I should come across this post. I too have a 2021 Charger Hellcat Redeye (20 months old) with 1400 miles. and "IF" I was to sell the car. Is it best to leave the car stock or do the 6k up grades for more HP and I have been thinking about. Some buyers want stock and others can deal with HP upgrades. So just asking for opinions. THX ALL

Best to most likely consider in leaving it stock power if the possibility of wanting to resell it.
 

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At approx 60k on the clock I have to ask…. Have you changed spark plugs,coils or performed a leak down test?
The plugs and coils would certainly help if you have not done them yet. The leak down test is a good investment if you are wanting to mod beyond stock so you don’t throw good money after bad
I check plugs and do oil about every 1000 miles on my 1320 cus I am beating on it all the time. I would thing the 392 would require same if not more attention
 

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I believe a 3.17 upper pulley and a tune and you can stay on stock fuel pumps and stock injectors. Gains on this setup might be around 40-60 whp depending on conditions. If you still have extended warranty, it might be best to ride it out and see if there are any other issues to take care of unless you don’t care about the warranty anymore and want the power.
 

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thanks for the reply. Yea I was thinking about instead of taking off the lid and all that crazy stuff for something easier for now just a 10% lower and tune I’m thinking should be good for 60-100hp gains most likely. Also was considering e85 for extra power when I want it but I don’t think the stock injectors could handle that. I don’t race much or anything but like to do a few mods for some more power

If you're planning on doing just a 10% lower and a tune might as well get your crank pinned since whoever is doing the job will be down there so might as well do that too. I believe you’ll have to upgrade injectors as well and would suggest at least the ID1050x especially if your planning on combining the upper pulley as well.

If you plan on ever doing E-85 then you'll definitely need to upgrade the injectors to handle that like the FIC1200's or even the ID1300S. Plus upgrade the fuel pumps to at least the dual fuel pumps instead of the BAP. It will be more money but a better buy.

Best to do some research and know what you really want with your HP goals and budget.
 

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I read a lot of good things with just getting a good 93 tune, up to 60 WHP from it, reading what others say. alos, i see guys run a 10% lower with a tune seeing good results as well.
I agree.

I think Dodge “de-tunes” the newer Hellcats. I think going back to the ‘18s or ‘19s Because several reasons like the EPA is on their ass for one.
So yea I would get a tune from a tuner with a good reputation and see how you like the 60-80 rwhp gain from it.
 

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Hey there everyone! I’ve had my hellcat for 2 years and it’s been stock except for deleted mid pipe and jlt intake and the jlt catch can. I have extended warranty and it has replaced my supercharger when it went out at 40k miles. Car now has 59k
Car starting to feel slow for some reason. What pulley can I go with to gain some good horsepower but can stay on stock fuel pumps and injectors at this time?
Any help would be much appreciated and if anyone has done it what power did you make. Thanks
The problem with resale on these modded cars when selling is that you're telling the buyer that 700-800 horses wasn't enough to beat on. Therefore, it is safe to assume you added the go go goodies to beat on it even more. I'd rather have a used stock car. Even if I wanted to mod it myself. Just my $.02 worth.
 

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I agree.

I think Dodge “de-tunes” the newer Hellcats. I think going back to the ‘18s or ‘19s Because several reasons like the EPA is on their ass for one.
So yea I would get a tune from a tuner with a good reputation and see how you like the 60-80 rwhp gain from it.

I could be wrong and maybe there are exceptions but I think a 60-80 whp gain on just a tune only might be a bit of a stretch.

Unless it's combined with a pulley or some sort of race gas/ E-85 tune.
 

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I could be wrong and maybe there are exceptions but I think a 60-80 whp gain on just a tune only might be a bit of a stretch.

Unless it's combined with a pulley or some sort of race gas/ E-85 tune.
@Vet Rider got like 70 rwhp. on a tune only. 93 octane. Search, look up his posts. And he knows a lot about the COT issue too. Maybe tuning that Cot temperatures helped get that much more hp too. Idk.
 

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@Vet Rider got like 70 rwhp. on a tune only. 93 octane. Search, look up his posts. And he knows a lot about the COT issue too. Maybe tuning that Cot temperatures helped get that much more hp too. Idk.

That's pretty impressive for just a tune only. Looks like he had it done by Satera Tuning which is a good reputable shop.
 

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That's pretty impressive for just a tune only. Looks like he had it done by Satera Tuning which is a good reputable shop.
Yea, I was thinking about having Satera pulley, supporting mods, dyno tune my car next spring.
And have the Cot adjusted/tuned too. I’m not sure how but the tuner adjusts the temperature on those. Obviously we don’t want our Cats to over heat either.
 

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Yea, I was thinking about having Satera pulley, supporting mods, dyno tune my car next spring.
And have the Cot adjusted/tuned too. I’m not sure how but the tuner adjusts the temperature on those. Obviously we don’t want our Cats to over heat either.

Going to have your car worked on by Satera is a good choice. If you get a pulley from them then I'd recommend you go with their own clutched upper pulley setup. According to them it's even better and stronger than the clutched Hellraisers that have had issues so Satera made their "own" clutched pulley version that's made much better.

They are down to earth honest folks. This shop definitely likes to make sure you have a safe reliable build the right way. Your in good hands with them. I wish they were in my area down here in South Florida but there way up in Illinois.
 

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Going to have your car worked on by Satera is a good choice. If you get a pulley from them then I'd recommend you go with their own clutched upper pulley setup. According to them it's even better and stronger than the clutched Hellraisers that have had issues so Satera made their "own" clutched pulley version that's made much better.

They are down to earth honest folks. This shop definitely likes to make sure you have a safe reliable build the right way. Your in good hands with them. I wish they were in my area down here in South Florida but there way up in Illinois.
Thanks man! Do they just replace the upper pulley? I hear some guys say that have a % lower too. But not by Satera
 

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Just got my baby after waiting 8 months - only thing I had dodge install was a front splitter and shark fins in the rear- I’ve had so many people stop and take pics in tell me that is one bad ass car. Was thinking of doing a mid delete package but after reading all the post think I’ll leave my love as- is. Don’t need the loud sound - I can hear hear her just fine ❤ - thanks all for your advice.
 
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