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I wrecked my 2019 hellcat WB with under 14,000 miles…it’s being repaired at a cost of $30,000 with original OEM parts.. it was in mint condition prior to the accident.. planning on selling/trading it in on a 2021 Tacoma TRD Off Road.. how much of a loss can I expect to take on it? Body damage was minimal but it went off roading tearing out a lot of engine related parts. Engine passed all tests.
 

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are you talking like carfax? carfax is really hit or miss the shop fixing the car has to report to them not all do. if this just happened it won't show up for a while or at all.
 

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I wrecked my 2019 hellcat WB with under 14,000 miles…it’s being repaired at a cost of $30,000 with original OEM parts.. it was in mint condition prior to the accident.. planning on selling/trading it in on a 2021 Tacoma TRD Off Road.. how much of a loss can I expect to take on it? Body damage was minimal but it went off roading tearing out a lot of engine related parts. Engine passed all tests.
Take it to carmax, tell them its perfect, they wont even double check. Sold them a lemon years ago and they thought it was a lime. They're dumb for not even checking before they cut a check but whatever, their problem.
 

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^^^ Guys like you are why guys like me will not buy from a used car dealer :ROFLMAO:
Do your research and be smart obviously.

If you're willing to buy a car from Carmax without checking it's history rather thoroughly then I don't feel bad for you.

Those outlets are the reason the used car market was tarnished in the first place. No one should EVER buy a sports/high trim performance car from such a vendor because they seldom treat the car as it should be, rather just another stock number. But these asshats gave the city morons 22% interest spread over 84 months to make the payment affordable on a $50k car and profited a ton because they did it A LOT.

It wasnt like the car they got from me had a blown head gasket or something. I bought the car from a Ford dealership after having it on a lift and holding it for a few days. Months later I went out to a meet and was told the previous owner blew the rear up, was on his 3rd clutch etc. Called ford and had them send me the warranty fixes and it was 4 pages long...so I knew it wasnt in good original factory condition anymore because the next owner would likely pull that info, so i modded the shit out of it. Then I realized the 2020s were coming out and people were gonna trade their 11-14s in and devalue them, so I took all the mods off and gave it to Carmax. They didn't even turn it on, they said "open the hood, trunk, both doors" and commented on the fact that the paint around the fender and body wasn't chipped meaning it couldn't have been in a accident. If that's their basis for condition when buying cars then I feel no sympathy for the morons that shop there. It's a cespul of shitty vehicles that have no place being as high priced as they are.
 

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Do your research and be smart obviously.

If you're willing to buy a car from Carmax without checking it's history rather thoroughly then I don't feel bad for you.

Those outlets are the reason the used car market was tarnished in the first place. No one should EVER buy a sports/high trim performance car from such a vendor because they seldom treat the car as it should be, rather just another stock number. But these asshats gave the city morons 22% interest spread over 84 months to make the payment affordable on a $50k car and profited a ton because they did it A LOT.

It wasnt like the car they got from me had a blown head gasket or something. I bought the car from a Ford dealership after having it on a lift and holding it for a few days. Months later I went out to a meet and was told the previous owner blew the rear up, was on his 3rd clutch etc. Called ford and had them send me the warranty fixes and it was 4 pages long...so I knew it wasnt in good original factory condition anymore because the next owner would likely pull that info, so i modded the shit out of it. Then I realized the 2020s were coming out and people were gonna trade their 11-14s in and devalue them, so I took all the mods off and gave it to Carmax. They didn't even turn it on, they said "open the hood, trunk, both doors" and commented on the fact that the paint around the fender and body wasn't chipped meaning it couldn't have been in a accident. If that's their basis for condition when buying cars then I feel no sympathy for the morons that shop there. It's a cespul of shitty vehicles that have no place being as high priced as they are.
Good heads-up for simply getting a pre-purchase inspection on everything.
 

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Do your research and be smart obviously.

If you're willing to buy a car from Carmax without checking it's history rather thoroughly then I don't feel bad for you.

Those outlets are the reason the used car market was tarnished in the first place. No one should EVER buy a sports/high trim performance car from such a vendor because they seldom treat the car as it should be, rather just another stock number. But these asshats gave the city morons 22% interest spread over 84 months to make the payment affordable on a $50k car and profited a ton because they did it A LOT.

It wasnt like the car they got from me had a blown head gasket or something. I bought the car from a Ford dealership after having it on a lift and holding it for a few days. Months later I went out to a meet and was told the previous owner blew the rear up, was on his 3rd clutch etc. Called ford and had them send me the warranty fixes and it was 4 pages long...so I knew it wasnt in good original factory condition anymore because the next owner would likely pull that info, so i modded the shit out of it. Then I realized the 2020s were coming out and people were gonna trade their 11-14s in and devalue them, so I took all the mods off and gave it to Carmax. They didn't even turn it on, they said "open the hood, trunk, both doors" and commented on the fact that the paint around the fender and body wasn't chipped meaning it couldn't have been in a accident. If that's their basis for condition when buying cars then I feel no sympathy for the morons that shop there. It's a cespul of shitty vehicles that have no place being as high priced as they are.
No I’m buying from a dealer new.. .. I don’t want to rip someone off, but I do want a fair deal
 

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A wrecked car, in general, is going to be worth 25% or so less... regardless if it is a quality repair or not. Granted, if the repair is just lousy, then you can expect way less.

Now, the Hellcat, as most halo cars go, is a bit different. The typical buyer for a Hellcat is someone who's a bit above average in terms of economic mobility. They typically don't buy wrecked Hellcats, regardless what the cost is. Most dealerships (even Carmax) typically won't keep these cars on the lot. Most dealers will take it on trade and auction it. You can expect anywhere from 30% or more of a reduction on the value of the car as a result. You can also expect a lengthy inspection process on the buying dealer's behalf because they'll want all the records, receipts, and verification that the car is properly repaired.

I honestly wouldn't even try and sell it private party.

As for buying a used Hellcat... I don't care if it is a private party sale, dealership or a budget dealership like Carmax: Insist on having the maintenance records available, and get inspected by an independent 3rd party mechanic that's familiar with Hellcats. Do not trust or rely on the dealership to make claims like, "If anything goes wrong, we'll give you a 30 day warranty..." or some other promise. Some issues, like former modifications and/or abusive driving, can greatly reduce the lifespan of many of the mechanical components and some of them are extremely expensive.

Trust me, you don't want to buy someone's used track toy that's pulled 200 1/4mi runs on 8,200 miles and expect that you're going to be driving it around and not be saddled with several thousand dollars of repairs soon. That's because I too am a hotrodder... and I only sell my nice cars when they need work that I don't want to pay for. I felt bad for the dealership that bought it, but my 1,000hp Mustang I traded in... it was about 2,000mi short of needing an entire lower engine rebuild after having been driven on 18psi for 20,000 miles.
 

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I call bull--Carmax has a very regimented procedure to buying a car and they don't vary, ever... Nice try.
What's the regiment then since you apparently know? I asked both times why they dont bother engaging the clutch to see if its trash, or even drive it to hear for anything etc. They said they seldom do it with high dollar cars.

They did the EXACT same thing not but 2 months ago with my hellcat. No driving. No car on lift. Simply open all doors and trunk and hood, turn car on and the appraiser walks around and takes pics with her carmax handheld, asks a few questions about "was it modded? do you have anything you want to notate so the offer reflects accurately of condition?", you wait 20 minutes for them to see what they've paid and sold that car at in the past with their own system, and then they give you your offer. They gave me a paper for $47,480 when I went with the Hellcat, which was a grand less than vroom at the time so they weren't far. I use the paper offer to leverage other offers if I decide to go elsewhere.

Either you're full of shit (likely) or you've never dealt with Carmax. One way to find out is to maybe do some research or take your car there before you claim I'm bullshitting. What do I have to gain from making up an entire scenario on this forum? I think you can tell by my post history I'm brutally honest whenever I chime in.

Both cars were stick cars, so maybe you auto folk get a test drive because they can actually drive yours.
 

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A wrecked car, in general, is going to be worth 25% or so less... regardless if it is a quality repair or not. Granted, if the repair is just lousy, then you can expect way less.

Now, the Hellcat, as most halo cars go, is a bit different. The typical buyer for a Hellcat is someone who's a bit above average in terms of economic mobility. They typically don't buy wrecked Hellcats, regardless what the cost is. Most dealerships (even Carmax) typically won't keep these cars on the lot. Most dealers will take it on trade and auction it. You can expect anywhere from 30% or more of a reduction on the value of the car as a result. You can also expect a lengthy inspection process on the buying dealer's behalf because they'll want all the records, receipts, and verification that the car is properly repaired.

I honestly wouldn't even try and sell it private party.

As for buying a used Hellcat... I don't care if it is a private party sale, dealership or a budget dealership like Carmax: Insist on having the maintenance records available, and get inspected by an independent 3rd party mechanic that's familiar with Hellcats. Do not trust or rely on the dealership to make claims like, "If anything goes wrong, we'll give you a 30 day warranty..." or some other promise. Some issues, like former modifications and/or abusive driving, can greatly reduce the lifespan of many of the mechanical components and some of them are extremely expensive.

Trust me, you don't want to buy someone's used track toy that's pulled 200 1/4mi runs on 8,200 miles and expect that you're going to be driving it around and not be saddled with several thousand dollars of repairs soon. That's because I too am a hotrodder... and I only sell my nice cars when they need work that I don't want to pay for. I felt bad for the dealership that bought it, but my 1,000hp Mustang I traded in... it was about 2,000mi short of needing an entire lower engine rebuild after having been driven on 18psi for 20,000 miles.
Glad I'm not the only one who did something not so nice 😂
 

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Glad I'm not the only one who did something not so nice 😂
thank you for such a detailed reply..what about the existing warranty from dodge? is that voided because of the accident? I still have a year on the three year warranty and three years on the power train..unfortunately the life time guarantee from both the insurance company and the repair shop is not transferable. Thank you again for taking the time to respond.
 

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thank you for such a detailed reply..what about the existing warranty from dodge? is that voided because of the accident? I still have a year on the three year warranty and three years on the power train..unfortunately the life time guarantee from both the insurance company and the repair shop is not transferable. Thank you again for taking the time to respond.
Warranty should still be in place as there are dodge parts still on the car. If they put other parts on it I could see them raising concerns but doubt it.

You have 5 year 60k miles on your drivetrain warranty, and all that transfers regardless condition.
 

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I wrecked my 2019 hellcat WB with under 14,000 miles…it’s being repaired at a cost of $30,000 with original OEM parts.. it was in mint condition prior to the accident.. planning on selling/trading it in on a 2021 Tacoma TRD Off Road.. how much of a loss can I expect to take on it? Body damage was minimal but it went off roading tearing out a lot of engine related parts. Engine passed all tests.
Visit a car site -- I think www.kbb.com the best one for this case -- and plug in all the details about your car before the accident to get an idea of what the car was worth.

I believe the KBB site allowed me to select the options packages my car had. Other sites didn't and the resulting estimated value was quite low.

Once you have the pre collision value then offer the car for sale or trade in and of course divulge the fact the car was in an accident and hopefully you can show before and after pics and a detailed repair invoice that shows factory parts were used in the repair and what other work was done to bring the car back to its pre collision condition.

My 2020 Scat Pack was hit -- 2 times on two separate days. (Don't ask.)

Fortunately the damage was to body parts. No running gear, steering, suspension was harmed.

Cost to repair came to just over $8000. All new factory parts were used. I obtained an appraisal of the car's post collision repair value from Auto Appraisal Group. It came up with around a $5000 diminished value.

Auto Appraisal Group sent an inspector to my location. He came from Tulsa. I live in northwest Arkansas. Appraisal cost was $400.
 
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