How much WHP from 10% Lower on a Redeye? Forza Stage 2 Build Started!

VancityCat · 2022-07-09T18:37:05-0400

Hey Gents,

So I ordered my Hellcat Redeye Charger last year and had the dealer install 3.09 Gears and Nittos - which compared to my old 707hp Hellcat with 2.62s...was definitely noticably faster.

However, regardless of what I had read on many threads, the 3.09 gears (when installed without a tune) create issues with the cars match-revving during downshifts and other small quirks with shifting.

So, I've decided to bite the bullet and get the tuned. While I'm at it, I'm doing a mild build.

The car will be receiving

ATI 10% OD Damper
ER14S plugs
Mashimoto 180 Degree Thermostat
Forza Tuned Stage 2 Tune- and TCM tune.
Gates Belt

Please spare me the time starting a discussion about voided warranties - as I don't give a shit- financially its not a worry and regardless - I'm sure the motor/trans can handle it just fine.

My questions -

Is anyone running a 10% lower on a Redeye? What type of boost should I expect? RWHP numbers? 1/4 Time on 18'' Mickey Thompson ET-Rs?

Unholy707 · 2022-07-10T13:39:36-0400

Forza is junk you’re paying for a name, pretty standard mod though. Make sure they pin the crank. If you’re paying for a “special package”, they should be able to tell you around what it’ll make. Don’t they tune it on a dyno? If not I wouldn’t even waste my money, regardless if I had it to spare

VancityCat · 2022-07-10T15:29:40-0400

Unholy707 said:
Forza is junk you’re paying for a name, pretty standard mod though. Make sure they pin the crank. If you’re paying for a “special package”, they should be able to tell you around what it’ll make. Don’t they tune it on a dyno? If not I wouldn’t even waste my money, regardless if I had it to spare

Forza is junk? Have your ever been to his shop? Ever seen or driven in the cars he works on? Seen his workmanship?

you probably won’t see a more professional, cleaner and higher attention to detail shop in the country .

Brentons a friend and I’ll bet he knows a **** more than you do about these platforms - especially considering his wait list is a year and half .

Unholy707 · 2022-07-10T15:36:29-0400

VancityCat said:
Forza is junk? Have your ever been to his shop? Ever seen or driven in the cars he works on? Seen his workmanship?

you probably won’t see a more professional, cleaner and higher attention to detail shop in the country .

Brentons a friend and I’ll bet he knows a **** more than you do about these platforms - especially considering his wait list is a year and half .

Yep, I know nothing. And obviously he doesn’t either if he can’t give you expected whp figures. They don’t do anything special that all other shops don’t do. You pay for the name and the cool badging

Unholy707 · 2022-07-10T15:40:11-0400

Relax, it’s Sunday. As you said, he’s your buddy, so I understand why you feel the way you do. Just saying they’re overpriced and you’re paying for it. Popularity doesn’t always mean best work/best value.

VancityCat · 2022-07-10T16:01:44-0400

Unholy707 said:
Yep, I know nothing. And obviously he doesn’t either if he can’t give you expected whp figures. They don’t do anything special that all other shops don’t do. You pay for the name and the cool badging

he said 100whp over stock on a Redeye . I wanted to see what other people were getting, but nice assumptions chap.

Love the patronizing tone too. Thanks for teaching me about business big guy.

Unholy707 · 2022-07-10T16:05:26-0400

VancityCat said:
he said 100whp over stock on a Redeye . I wanted to see what other people were getting, but nice assumptions chap.

Love the patronizing tone too. Thanks for teaching me about business big guy.

That’s great! Have fun with the car! Should be fast!

Vet Rider · 2022-07-10T16:10:26-0400

Waitlist year and a half?? Yeah I dont know about that. And if that is true, hes running that business into the ground. Nobody is waiting 18 months for boltons. There are far too many other shops around that can do this work at this level and do it quickly and probably cheaper.

VancityCat · 2022-07-10T16:18:16-0400

Vet Rider said:
Waitlist year and a half?? Yeah I dont know about that. And if that is true, hes running that business into the ground. Nobody is waiting 18 months for boltons. There are far too many other shops around that can do this work at this level and do it quickly and probably cheaper.

If you’ve been to the shop there are cars there from Kuwait, UAE.

Most of the cars were Lambos, Ferraris , McClarens .

Vet Rider · 2022-07-10T16:19:13-0400

VancityCat said:
If you’ve been to the shop there are cars there from Kuwait, UAE.

Most of the cars were Lambos, Ferraris , McClarens .

Yes I’ve been by this shop. I’m local. Didn’t see any of that.

Unholy707 · 2022-07-10T16:19:19-0400

VancityCat said:
If you’ve been to the shop there are cars there from Kuwait, UAE.

Most of the cars were Lambos, Ferraris , McClarens .

Yeah, lots of issues with people taking hellcats to shops that aren’t hellcat/Mopar experts.

VancityCat · 2022-07-10T16:23:31-0400

Unholy707 said:
Yeah, lots of issues with people taking hellcats to shops that aren’t hellcat/Mopar experts.

Bro you are a tool.

VancityCat · 2022-07-10T16:23:52-0400

Vet Rider said:
Yes I’ve been by this shop. I’m local. Didn’t see any of that.

Try walking inside .

Unholy707 · 2022-07-10T16:26:11-0400

Btw, Forza has nothing to

VancityCat said:
Bro you are a tool.

anyone who says bro usually is tbh

Unholy707 · 2022-07-10T16:27:03-0400

Might as well have Richard Rawlings at gas monkey garage do it if you’re trying to get a sticker on your car for where the work was done.

Unholy707 · 2022-07-10T16:32:03-0400

VancityCat said:
anyone with 1900 posts on a car forum in less than 9 months is usually someone without a woman worth f**king and a life worth living. I hope your enjoying that Hellcat on your 96 month payment plan buddy.

Wow I must have hit a nerve. Like I said good luck, car should be fast! 🤡

Unholy707 · 2022-07-10T16:40:59-0400

Following this thread for updates when/if you ever get this done at Forza. Hope your car doesn’t sit for a year and a half 🙃

Unholy707 · 2022-07-10T16:54:25-0400

Bored Panduh · 2022-07-13T13:42:19-0400

I always wanted to go with forza but I'm closer to HHP and for the money I can get more with them. If I was local I'd probably go forza for sure. He does know a good amount about our platform. Pretty sure he even designed some parts for the supercharger. I would make sure he pins the crank though. They do that I know for sure. Any way. Looking forward to whatever numbers you do get out of it. Make sure you post any slips or papers. Do you think you'll go back for the 4R package? Is it the 4R....... or 3R? I can't remember. They do put a nice suspension set up on there with the top + package.

VancityCat · 2022-07-13T16:30:29-0400

Bored Panduh said:
I always wanted to go with forza but I'm closer to HHP and for the money I can get more with them. If I was local I'd probably go forza for sure. He does know a good amount about our platform. Pretty sure he even designed some parts for the supercharger. I would make sure he pins the crank though. They do that I know for sure. Any way. Looking forward to whatever numbers you do get out of it. Make sure you post any slips or papers. Do you think you'll go back for the 4R package? Is it the 4R....... or 3R? I can't remember. They do put a nice suspension set up on there with the top + package.

Yes. Currently Im back in Vancouver. I live in Tampa area half the year.

We are doing the lower pulley, crank pin, thermostat and minor goods and a remote tune.

When I move full time to Florida next year, I'll go full Stage 4R (and then some- E85).

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