[evilblackdog]

Will the Hellcat or the new generation of classically styled muscle cars such as the camaros, challengers, mustangs be viewed as timeless classics like the originals in 10-20-30 years or will they be viewed as dated, disposable junk in 10-15 years like a lot of the 90's mustangs? Or will they go through a period of "undersirableness" and then be viewed kindly again down the road? With all of the computer stuff installed what would the restoration market look like 30 years from now?

 

[Burt Gummer]

I don't believe the current Hellcats will be collector cars but depreciating toys still worth having.

IMO they will have their value fairly well. I see a HC still selling for $45-50k used two years from now with 30k miles.

If the average HC is being sold for $65k now that isn't too bad. $15k depreciation to wrap your hands around the baddest MC ever for two years. 20% or so depreciation in those early years.

For contrast, a Jaquar XKR/XKR-S that sold for $140k two years ago sells for $65-$75 or 1/2 loss - now that is a blood bath. Same with a Maserati Gran Turismo. The F-Type Jags may be worse.

Buying an HC as an 'investment' - I don't hear anyone claiming they are doing that ..... certainly IMO no one will be restoring these as classics 30 years from now (electronics were a great point).

 

[RoRo]

These will be fairly collectable I believe and the electronics upgradeable. If you keep a it in excellent condition a collector expects any high performance car will be desireable in 30 yrs

 

[CubeMan]

it depends on how long dodge pumps them out, and mechanically how they are. If this engine design flops or the superchargers prove to be annoyances then expect the car to hold no value. But honestly modern mopars have been holding value greatly over the past few years.

 

[B5 Blue]

Only time will tell and I'll be takin a dirt nap by then. Remember one thing, Superbird's couldn't be given away and look at what it gets now.

 

[Max57]

I'd be more curious as to how all the electronics and computers fare as time moves on,,,.

 

[ALACAT]

History repeats itself.

 

[SRT_HC_707]

I think the electronics will be the demise of these cars as they get older. I see two issues... Failing electronics hardware and no software support whatsoever.

I hate to say it but I also think the majority of these cars will end up wrecked over time.

 

[B5 Blue]

I think the electronics will be the demise of these cars as they get older. I see two issues... Failing electronics hardware and no software support whatsoever.

I hate to say it but I also think the majority of these cars will end up wrecked over time.

Wrecked = mo money for good ones

 

[SRT_HC_707]

Wrecked = mo money for good ones

I hear you. I just hate to cars like these in the boneyard before their time....

Let's all be careful!

 

[FLEX]

But honestly modern mopars have been holding value greatly over the past few years.

I haven't seen that.

The numbered Daytonas and SRT8s have depreciated in value right along side their V6 and smaller V8 brethren.

As said above in 50 years who knows but most of us will be long gone...

 

[huggytree]

my 2011 IE held value very well....in 4 years it lost 30% vs most cars 50% or more

i think you will be able to buy a Joe Dirt HC in 10-15 years for under $10k

at some point it will hit rock bottom and start to rise....they will never be all that rare....there will be 20,000+ of them made in 3 years.....not a rare or limited car....just hard to find now

kids in 20 years wont want them....the future is cars driving themselves....kids today(future HC buyers) dont care about speed/power...they are happy with a loud radio and a Civic......when i was young every kid had a camaro/firebird or early 70's buick/oldsmobile with a 350 or larger in it....today most kids drive their parents cars or a compact with 150hp..........there will be no one to buy your HC because there will be no interest.....also the next generation will be poor....their babyboomer parents/grand parents have saved $30,000 for retirement......they will be living in their kids basements leaching off their kids to survive when they can no longer work....the babyboomers will be a huge drain on this country....its not that many years away

0 chance your 2015 hc will be worth the same as a 1971 Hemi Challenger

 

[BgAL]

According to Hagerty (classic car insurer) the Hellcat is destined to be a classic. Projected future value of $200,000. They are the underwriters so you would have to think they are basing their projections on a bit more than surmise and feelings.

 

[FLEX]

Have to agree with h-tree on this one. Kids today DNGAF about cars.

 

[huggytree]

how could a HC w/ 20,000+ produced be worth more than a 71 Hemi with 1,200 produced(or how ever many there were)

in 1971 few people thought their Hemi would be worth $100,000 some day.......in 2015 many people think their HC will be worth something...hundreds are storing them........

if they stopped making them right now....yea i think its possible.....but i dont think the HP war is over....i think it will continue w/o end...i think 1000hp from he factory will arrive one of these days....look for a 800hp+ GT500 next.....most thought it would have ended with a 550hp GT500 in 2011.....then they said 662hp was the end.....but now 2 years later we have 707hp.............Dodge may screw 2015 owners and up the HP for 2017 after the next GT500 comes out...your will have the 6.1 version of the HC when 2016 or 2017 comes..(i would really be pissed).......you could have the GN version while 2016/2017 have the GNX version

hagerty has no idea......maybe if the 2nd muscle car era is already ended we all may be lucky.....no new gt500 and no new Zl1(or Zl2)......if Ford/GM gives up and Dodge does after 2017....then yea i could see the HC having high value some day.....lots of If's

 

[BgAL]

and they will never sell more than 3,400 Hellcats the first year, the GT500 is a way better car, and you will be able to find at least 3 or 4 Hellcats on every lot by March or April .......... yawn

 

[SRT_HC_707]

my 2011 IE held value very well....in 4 years it lost 30% vs most cars 50% or more

i think you will be able to buy a Joe Dirt HC in 10-15 years for under $10k

at some point it will hit rock bottom and start to rise....they will never be all that rare....there will be 20,000+ of them made in 3 years.....not a rare or limited car....just hard to find now

kids in 20 years wont want them....the future is cars driving themselves....kids today(future HC buyers) dont care about speed/power...they are happy with a loud radio and a Civic......when i was young every kid had a camaro/firebird or early 70's buick/oldsmobile with a 350 or larger in it....today most kids drive their parents cars or a compact with 150hp..........there will be no one to buy your HC because there will be no interest.....also the next generation will be poor....their babyboomer parents/grand parents have saved $30,000 for retirement......they will be living in their kids basements leaching off their kids to survive when they can no longer work....the babyboomers will be a huge drain on this country....its not that many years away

0 chance your 2015 hc will be worth the same as a 1971 Hemi Challenger

Many kids today aren't even interested in getting their license when they turn 16. I see it all the time.

The day I turned 16 I was at DMV at 7:30 (they opened at 8) for my driving test. I couldn't wait to drive. I know kids now that are 21 years old without a license and not even interested in getting one. I find that odd but I guess times are changing. These same kids have their faces buried in their smart phone 24x7 and many are lacking in social skills IMO.

 

[huggytree]

and they will never sell more than 3,400 Hellcats the first year, the GT500 is a way better car, and you will be able to find at least 3 or 4 Hellcats on every lot by March or April .......... yawn

even Einstein was wrong once ill bet?

even Brad Pitt has a bad/off day eh?

Ill bet the pope passes gas when no one is around once in a while?

sorry-me=not perfect

 

[huggytree]

Many kids today aren't even interested in getting their license when they turn 16. I see it all the time.

The day I turned 16 I was at DMV at 7:30 (they opened at 8) for my driving test. I couldn't wait to drive. I know kids now that are 21 years old without a license and not even interested in getting one. I find that odd but I guess times are changing. These same kids have their faces buried in their smart phone 24x7 and many are lacking in social skills IMO.

this is why they are working on cars driving themselves....gonna happen in our lifetime.....kids dont care about driving.....they just want to get somewhere and text while doing it....go anywhere and look at people....99% of them are sitting there looking at their phone

the world is changing.........the babyboomers wont be retiring anytime soon because they cant, the young kids wont be able to get good jobs until they are age 40 because the baby boomers arent giving up their good paying jobs until they cant function anymore because they cant retire because they have $30k saved......because,because,because.....in 20 years the world is going to look a lot different.....buying a HC and paying $200,000 isnt going to be on too many peoples minds.......i dont know tons of young people in their 20's, but every one i know is lost....cant find a good job....just floating around...this economy is killing them...........

the babyboomers who now own most of the HC's will not be passing their standard of living down to their kids/grand kids


id love to be the kid in 20 years to buy a $10k joe dirt HC when i was 16 and be the king of the school parking lot though

 

[SRT_HC_707]

I'm just happy I have a Hellcat. I'm going to drive it and some day I'll probably sell it. I don't really care if it is worth 2K or 200K in 15 years.

If I still have it and it's worth something then GREAT. Otherwise whatever. It's a car. I bought it to enjoy and I fully expect it to depreciate like any other car (the slower the better but whatever).