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· Retired American Fighting Man
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I have contacted SRT and asked them to have an experienced SRT driver do a re-match against the Telsa P85D! I am sure Telsa had one of their test driver/engineers drive their car! I am sure Dodge/SRT has some drivers that can drive a Hellcat professionally! Poor Johnny was set up!! I don't mad, I get even!!!

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· Retired American Fighting Man
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The Telsa P85D is all wheel drive and that is its advantage. To make it fair the Hellcat should be allowed racing slicks!

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This is what I got from Tim Kuniskis

Agree 100% -- the Hellcat is much better (quicker and faster) than that video suggests.
Luckily, there are many others online that highlight that -- and the comments from Hellcat fans support that as well.
And, this was one of the reasons that when we launched the car, we had the performance times certified by the NHRA – we didn’t want people saying/thinking they weren’t real.

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This is what I got from Tim Kuniskis

Agree 100% -- the Hellcat is much better (quicker and faster) than that video suggests.
Luckily, there are many others online that highlight that -- and the comments from Hellcat fans support that as well.
And, this was one of the reasons that when we launched the car, we had the performance times certified by the NHRA – we didn’t want people saying/thinking they weren’t real.

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Wow, his secretary knows more about our cars than I thought.
 

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I have contacted SRT and asked them to have an experienced SRT driver do a re-match against the Telsa P85D!
What's the point? They're going for different audiences. The Tesla isn't a true sport sedan and costs $120K. It's not like any prospective Tesla buyers are going to see a Hellcat beat it at the strip and go, "well I was thinking of getting an eco friendly zero emissions car, but instead I'll get a car where you can actually hear dinosaurs crying when you floor it." It's a no-win situation for SRT. If they win, there's no upside. If they lose, they get mocked.
 

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What's the point? They're going for different audiences. The Tesla isn't a true sport sedan and costs $120K. It's not like any prospective Tesla buyers are going to see a Hellcat beat it at the strip and go, "well I was thinking of getting an eco friendly zero emissions car, but instead I'll get a car where you can actually hear dinosaurs crying when you floor it." It's a no-win situation for SRT. If they win, there's no upside. If they lose, they get mocked.
^^^^ Hillarious
 

· Retired American Fighting Man
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The point is a fellow member was duped into racing someone who was an experienced driver and than made a mockery of! I was in the military! We leave no man behind!!

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85D should still win, the torque is there immediately.
Wrong. Hellcats routinely post both quicker AND faster times at the quarter-mile. The Tesla is easier to launch, but if the Hellcat doesn't redlight, and doesn't choose to turn off all traction control, it'll blow past the Tesla (did you note the Tesla's speed was 'only' 114mph? Hellcats often are more than ten mph faster through the traps, and like a half second quicker.) But, these cars appeal to different buyers anyway. The Tesla is for those rich folks wanting quiet luxury, and the best fuel economy. Hellcats are for buyers that aren't necessarily wealthy, but demand the most dominant muscle car ever created.
 

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Remember, the Hellcat times are registered with the NHRA!!

The 2015 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat is the fastest muscle car ever with a National Hot Rod Association-certified ¼-mile elapsed time of 11.2 seconds at 125 miles per hour (mph) with stock Pirelli P275/40ZR20 P Zero tires. With drag radials, the run dropped to just 10.8 seconds at 126 mph!

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What's the point? They're going for different audiences. The Tesla isn't a true sport sedan and costs $120K. It's not like any prospective Tesla buyers are going to see a Hellcat beat it at the strip and go, "well I was thinking of getting an eco friendly zero emissions car, but instead I'll get a car where you can actually hear dinosaurs crying when you floor it." It's a no-win situation for SRT. If they win, there's no upside. If they lose, they get mocked.
You got only one thing wrong, the dinosaurs are not crying, they are having a Party bro !!!!
 

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This is what I got from Tim Kuniskis

Agree 100% -- the Hellcat is much better (quicker and faster) than that video suggests.
Luckily, there are many others online that highlight that -- and the comments from Hellcat fans support that as well.
And, this was one of the reasons that when we launched the car, we had the performance times certified by the NHRA – we didn’t want people saying/thinking they weren’t real.

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Can I hear a "HELL YEAH!!"?
 

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Go BKuz
 

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This is what I got from Tim Kuniskis

Agree 100% -- the Hellcat is much better (quicker and faster) than that video suggests.
Luckily, there are many others online that highlight that -- and the comments from Hellcat fans support that as well.
And, this was one of the reasons that when we launched the car, we had the performance times certified by the NHRA – we didn’t want people saying/thinking they weren’t real.

TIM KUNISKIS
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What is his email address? I need to send him something.
 

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The Tesla is for those rich folks wanting quiet luxury, and the best fuel economy. Hellcats are for buyers that aren't necessarily wealthy, but demand the most dominant muscle car ever created.
You nailed it. And frankly, even if the Tesla was faster than the Hellcat I wouldn't buy one. A big part of why I love the Hellcat is the SOUND. You can be doing 40MPH in a Hellcat and drop it down a few gears and the sound will bring a smile to your face. That's something that is just completely missing in the Tesla. It's not purely about raw speed, it's about the entire driving experience.
 

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You could just go with the Motor Trend quarter mile road test results for both cars. 11.6 Tesla. 11.7 Hellcat. Cars in stock form tested by the same magazine. Both were likely on a non prepped surface, not a drag strip.

It is best to just acknowledge the Tesla is also quarter mile quick and move on.

There are going to be some upset Hellcat owners when they acknowledge their first Nisson GTR on the street. Motor Trend tested it at 11.1 in the quarter mile stock. God help the Hellcat owner who tries to keep up with it on the twisties. Yes, it is a somewhat ugly and more expensive car. You can always mod the Hellcat by adding drag radials, but you can do the same with the GTR and there are plenty of GTR's already on the street pumping out over 1,000 HP on the street. If one beats you and posts it on Youtube, does that make it a better car that yours?

Any car can be modded in power, tires and driveline to the point where a comparison of the stock models becomes moot. A comparison of stock to stock cars available from the factory is a pretty valid comparison. A comparison of stock to a modded car is not.

There are a lot of cars available in stock form with amazing performance, some in a quarter mile, some in top end, some on a road course etc. When you go from appreciating each car for what is is and can do in stock form to "my car is better if I add this thing that the other car does not have" the argument becomes like something you see from a 16 year old on a Mustang Forum.
 

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What's the point? They're going for different audiences. The Tesla isn't a true sport sedan and costs $120K. It's not like any prospective Tesla buyers are going to see a Hellcat beat it at the strip and go, "well I was thinking of getting an eco friendly zero emissions car, but instead I'll get a car where you can actually hear dinosaurs crying when you floor it." It's a no-win situation for SRT. If they win, there's no upside. If they lose, they get mocked.
I have to slightly disagree with a portion of your statement. I was shopping Tesla and Mercedes S when I found out about the Hellcat. After 2 days of research I switched gears and was all in for Charger Hellcat and skipped the other two.
 

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I have contacted SRT and asked them to have an experienced SRT driver do a re-match against the Telsa P85D! I am sure Telsa had one of their test driver/engineers drive their car! I am sure Dodge/SRT has some drivers that can drive a Hellcat professionally! Poor Johnny was set up!! I don't mad, I get even!!!

BKuz
THAT is awesome! Grrrrrrr! Since we decided it's an overpriced toaster, would that be considered Shizzy on a shingle when you finish him?
 
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