[intercooler]

N/A

 

[rayzazoo]

On rayzazoo's big thread, we have documented 77 allocations to sold orders in Mar and Apr.

So far in Apr, count = 13, and total count in Mar = 64.

If you multiply these out by 24 (which assumes we have a little over 4% of total orders listed), then we get a rough idea of the total number of allocations made through this period:

MAR 1 - 31: 64 x 24 = 1536
APR 1 - 5: 13 x 24 = 312

TOTAL = 1848. Avg number of allocations per day = 51.

These are just estimated ballpark numbers to give us an idea. Extrapolating to end of June and assuming that this allocation/build rate is maintained, there could be another 4000 allocations to come.

Indeed, that additional 1,000 scheduled builds opened the flood gates to VINs.

Now if they could only send a few toward our small town dealership and get all of our orders out of BG land

 

[Rock Petrick]

On rayzazoo's big thread, we have documented 77 allocations to sold orders in Mar and Apr.

So far in Apr, count = 13, and total count in Mar = 64.

If you multiply these out by 24 (which assumes we have a little over 4% of total orders listed), then we get a rough idea of the total number of allocations made through this period:

MAR 1 - 31: 64 x 24 = 1536
APR 1 - 5: 13 x 24 = 312

TOTAL = 1848. Avg number of allocations per day = 51.

These are just estimated ballpark numbers to give us an idea. Extrapolating to end of June and assuming that this allocation/build rate is maintained, there could be another 4000 allocations to come.

How many unsold Hellcats do you think are being shipped to Dealers
As a % of current production?
Just trying to get a handle on how hard FCA is trying to fix the ordering
Backlog

 

[rayzazoo]

How many unsold Hellcats do you think are being shipped to Dealers
As a % of current production?
Just trying to get a handle on how hard FCA is trying to fix the ordering
Backlog

At this point, I think this percentage is really low, maybe less than 100 vehicles, however, I also think that there has been a change in dealer tactics to ensure that unsold lot vehicles don't sit. It is interesting to compare the Dodge Inventory website with what a dealership actually shows is in their inventory.

 

[Deputydog]

There is a dealer on eBay trying to sell 3 inbound cars..

Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat Coupe 2 Door eBay

 

[TIGwelder]

FCA
STOP SENDING THIS DEALER CARS. FFS

Sam Leman Chrysler Jeep Dodge of Bloomington New Used Car Dealer near Decatur IL

Hire some interns to surf ebay and cars dot com and blacklist these people. I'm getting tired of seeing this crap while others like myself sit for 7-8 months with sold orders. Get your crap together.

 

[Johndeere]

FCA
STOP SENDING THIS DEALER CARS. FFS

Sam Leman Chrysler Jeep Dodge of Bloomington New Used Car Dealer near Decatur IL

Hire some interns to surf ebay and cars dot com and blacklist these people. I'm getting tired of seeing this crap while others like myself sit for 7-8 months with sold orders. Get your crap together.

I hate these azzclowns. I tried to work with them but they gave the same song and dance about how rare the car is. I just laughed and walked away. Notice they are selling through their BMW dealership probably moved it off the reported inventory that Dodge sees.

 

[TIGwelder]

They really need an outsider to come in and consult. Someone that doesn't care about stepping on toes or pissing people off, and tell them how it is.

Because there must be a group of lemming yes men that are just going along with whatever silly crap they come up with.


Bring me in for a week or two. I tell it like it is. I don't care if you hate me while I'm there or after I leave. But you know what? You're not not going to get candy coated BS or sunshine blown up your ass. You're gonna get the truth, as harsh as that may be. That's the kind of employees you need to start hiring. "Yes men followers" don't get crap done.

 

[BgAL]

On rayzazoo's big thread, we have documented 77 allocations to sold orders in Mar and Apr.

So far in Apr, count = 13, and total count in Mar = 64.

If you multiply these out by 24 (which assumes we have a little over 4% of total orders listed), then we get a rough idea of the total number of allocations made through this period:

MAR 1 - 31: 64 x 24 = 1536
APR 1 - 5: 13 x 24 = 312

TOTAL = 1848. Avg number of allocations per day = 51.

These are just estimated ballpark numbers to give us an idea. Extrapolating to end of June and assuming that this allocation/build rate is maintained, there could be another 4000 allocations to come.

Just like was projected - going forward, a little over 1 for each dealership in North America. Most likely 2-3k orders go unfilled. Put another way, if they make 600 a month for the next six months, each dealership gets one. Most of us will likely be SOL unless you are currently #1 on your dealers list.

 

[Profezzor X]

At this point, I think this percentage is really low, maybe less than 100 vehicles, however, I also think that there has been a change in dealer tactics to ensure that unsold lot vehicles don't sit. It is interesting to compare the Dodge Inventory website with what a dealership actually shows is in their inventory.

I've been following the Dodge Inventory website daily (no joke) since it first opened up for Challengers. And although I'm in the market for a Charger, the inventory on their website is invalid. I went to one of the local dealerships said was suppose to have two Charger Hellcats on their lot, and I was told by the salesman that both were allocation orders, and that they were both picked up days ago. So A) the website information is incorrect, and B) it doesn't state whether the inventory for those dealerships are customer orders.

This is a hindsight on Dodge's part that I think should be monitored and clearly specified so that potential customers don't travel out to these dealerships with a false sense of security - thinking they could buy it off the lot. Sure a phone call ahead of time would help before driving out to those dealerships that have that "ON THE LOT" status, but if Dodge kept current with their inventory website, or at the very least get the ordering process back up and running again, people visiting those "ON THE LOT" dealerships have that option of "well it looks like the Hellcat is not here on your lot, so can I just order one while I'm here?". That's the right, and honest thing to do.

 

[rayzazoo]

I've been following the Dodge Inventory website daily (no joke) since it first opened up for Challengers. And although I'm in the market for a Charger, the inventory on their website is invalid. I went to one of the local dealerships said was suppose to have two Charger Hellcats on their lot, and I was told by the salesman that both were allocation orders, and that they were both picked up days ago. So A) the website information is incorrect, and B) it doesn't state whether the inventory for those dealerships are customer orders. This is a hindsight on Dodge's part that I think should be monitored and clearly specified so that potential customers don't travel out to these dealerships with a false sense of security. Sure a phone call ahead of time would help before driving out to those dealerships that have that "ON THE LOT" status, but if Dodge kept current with their inventory website, or at the very least get the ordering process back up and running again, people visiting those "ON THE LOT" dealerships have that option of "well it looks like the Hellcat is not here on your lot, so can I just order one while I'm here?". That's the right, and honest thing to do.

The Dodge inventory web site usually gets a refresh every Wednesday

 

[Deputydog]

That is how I found my car.. I was searching the Dodge inventory list and emailed my dealer who showed a car on the lot. Of course it was a sold order, but that lead to a conversation with the manager who had an order going into production that the customer bailed on. So it turned out good for me in a round-about way..

 

[TIGwelder]

It's Easter. I'm sure the powers that be care even less today then normal days. Therefore I will hammer beers out on the screen porch and follow suit.

I'll leave with:
Every dealer in the US doesn't need a Hellcat every month. The dealers with sold orders need their orders filled. We're passing the half way point. The allocation crap doesn't/didn't work. If the powers that be aren't mentally handicapped it should be obvious by now what needs to be done.

 

[Jim M]

At this point, I think this percentage is really low, maybe less than 100 vehicles, however, I also think that there has been a change in dealer tactics to ensure that unsold lot vehicles don't sit. It is interesting to compare the Dodge Inventory website with what a dealership actually shows is in their inventory.

Dealers clearly into the monkey business. I saw a Charger HC listed at one dealer. They posted a lot of pictures of the car. In the pictures you could clearly see a decal and license frame from another dealer about 40 miles away.

 

[rayzazoo]

Dealers clearly into the monkey business. I saw a Charger HC listed at one dealer. They posted a lot of pictures of the car. In the pictures you could clearly see a decal and license frame from another dealer about 40 miles away.

Agreed. All they have to do is "sell" the car to another "person" in the same dealership network to get it off the new inventory books. Then resell the car with the adjustment.

 

[Profezzor X]

The Dodge inventory web site usually gets a refresh every Wednesday

See, that I didn't know... Is that stated somewhere on their website?... of course not.

In this day and age of technology, it makes sense for large businesses and retailers to have monitoring systems in place that monitor and calculate moving inventory. Because as big as Dodge is, an automated system that removes sold inventory from dealerships on a daily basis should already be in place. Kind of like systems that show VIO's (vehicles in operation). If they have the capacity to find specific VIN numbers through their network, they should be able to identify if that vehicle has been sold, and when. Then, relay that information through their inventory portal for customers to see - so we're not wasting out time.

 

[TIGwelder]

They are buying from one another to get off the lot/books or kicking them over to other brands under their dealership name. Dealers are also buying them at markup from other dealers to have move in inventory.

 

[Bootstrap]

I picked up a "dealer order" that just happens to fulfil my exact needs, however it wasn't changed from Dealer Order to Customer Sold order so it's in D1 status with no scheduled build date... I'm really hoping I don't get pushed it the bottom of the pile because it's a dealer order. I'm looking into seeing if the dealer can change the status to "customer sold" ...

 

[Bootstrap]

You've got a VIN. You're in good shape. The criteria you are thinking of only applies to VON's and yours is past that stage.

Agreed, however I got a very detailed delivery schedule for yesterday, pity it's not built or even scheduled yet. I have no issue waiting but to be given a glimmer of hope and then having it taken away is crushing...

I feel for everyone in VON hell, I really hope someone senior from FCA read all these posts and get a feeling of how their system is just pissing off the "loyal" customer..

 

[Rock Petrick]

I agree - at this point, given the number of customer orders and seeing the numbers of allocations to sold orders, dealer stock orders being filled now may even be zero. In any case, I suspect it is a really low number too.

I guess the next post with 3 inbound cars for sale on EBay makes you think that FCA is still building stock inventory for large US dealers

Why do we have to guess? Why not someone from FCA just tell us their true game plan. They are ruining their reputation for Honesty and Fairness.