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Too much money.... hell the car itself was significantly overpriced even at the time it came out...
True but they sold out immediately. Other than collector cars, they've been made obsolete by the 6th gen ZL1. A 7th gen Z28 would have been cool though.
 
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True but they sold out immediately. Other than collector cars, they've been made obsolete by the 6th gen ZL1. A 7th gen Z28 would have been cool though.
They sold out because originally people expected it to be a very limited car. Furthermore, it was a pure track car.

It was actually made obsolete by the standard SS 1LE from the 6th Gen.... the standard ZL1 was a step up, and the ZL1 1LE just absolutely blew it away..

And aside from the ZL1 1LE, they were both cheaper (although I have seen some 1LE's for less than 75k)
 

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Agree on the Z28 being overpriced even in today's market. It does have its downsides with the LS7 head issues, pricey carbon ceramic brakes, rotors, optional radio and A/C. Other than its still a pretty cool looking car that's obviously intended for track use mostly.

GM really upped their game with the 6th gen Camaros Alpha Chasis and the ZL1 1LE is basically like a newer Z28 with the DSSV dampers and all.
 

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Beating a dead horse: The numbers on the Camaro put it in the front of my search, but I just couldn’t handle the squashed frog styling. It is a perfect car, except for the nonfunctional (appearance). I’m an old guy, if it looked anything reminiscent of at 69Z, I’d be all over it.
 

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Beating a dead horse: The numbers on the Camaro put it in the front of my search, but I just couldn’t handle the squashed frog styling. It is a perfect car, except for the nonfunctional (appearance). I’m an old guy, if it looked anything reminiscent of at 69Z, I’d be all over it.
Yes! on the front and back like the 69 me too.....same goes for the Ford Bronco make it look like the 74 or 75 with a half cab / all the modern suspension and V8 powered but noooooooooo
 

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Considered getting one in replacement of the hellcat but then I saw the price tag for an N/A car

True there kinda up there in coin. If someone looked into a Camaro coming from a Hellcat they would most likely consider the 6th gen ZL1 as it would be on the same level playing field as far as power and being up to date.

Obviously the Z28 wont be as fast (in a straight line) or up to date in plush amenities as the Hellcat but that Camaro is special in its own way. Some folks consider the Z28 for its muscle car appearance and rawness as well as the spartan interior.

They just want something with not a lot of tech and simplicity that you can easily have fun with in the twisties. I can understand as some people are looking for more character in the car that interests them as opposed to having one of the fastest straight line vehicles like the Hellcat.

Is that why you've considered the Z28?
 

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Funny how easy it would have been to just modernize the 1969 Camaro, but, noooooooooooooo, Chevy had to make a Dodge Charger with 2 doors and even MORE ugly.

PS "ugly" in this case is a noun, a STUFF, not an adjective, hence the use of "more ugly" instead of "uglIer."
 

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Beating a dead horse: The numbers on the Camaro put it in the front of my search, but I just couldn’t handle the squashed frog styling. It is a perfect car, except for the nonfunctional (appearance). I’m an old guy, if it looked anything reminiscent of at 69Z, I’d be all over it.
Agreed. It reminds me more of a mid 80's Porsche 914 than the coke bottle design of the 1st gen Camaros.
 

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True there kinda up there in coin. If someone looked into a Camaro coming from a Hellcat they would most likely consider the 6th gen ZL1 as it would be on the same level playing field as far as power and being up to date.

Obviously the Z28 wont be as fast (in a straight line) or up to date in plush amenities as the Hellcat but that Camaro is special in its own way. Some folks consider the Z28 for its muscle car appearance and rawness as well as the spartan interior.

They just want something with not a lot of tech and simplicity that you can easily have fun with in the twisties. I can understand as some people are looking for more character in the car that interests them as opposed to having one of the fastest straight line vehicles like the Hellcat.

Is that why you've considered the Z28?
I considered it because we get really hot humid summers in MD and my hellcat was a DOG when my IAT sat at 130° no matter if I was moving or not.

The plan was to grab a z28, do heads cam and e85 and make like 600whp N/A for around $4k, and the car only being 3800lbs rather the hellcat at 4500lbs, the power to weight would be near identical and the fun factor would be there as well being Z28's are only stick. I like to do some track stuff but not the drag strip, so it'd be more in line with my style of driving. I watched a video of a stock 2015 Z28 on Nürburgring and it absolutely ripped 130 through some very long turns and 70 on some very sharp ones, I can't see a hellcat narrow body doing that..
 

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I considered it because we get really hot humid summers in MD and my hellcat was a DOG when my IAT sat at 130° no matter if I was moving or not.

The plan was to grab a z28, do heads cam and e85 and make like 600whp N/A for around $4k, and the car only being 3800lbs rather the hellcat at 4500lbs, the power to weight would be near identical and the fun factor would be there as well being Z28's are only stick. I like to do some track stuff but not the drag strip, so it'd be more in line with my style of driving. I watched a video of a stock 2015 Z28 on Nürburgring and it absolutely ripped 130 through some very long turns and 70 on some very sharp ones, I can't see a hellcat narrow body doing that..

Agree a Z28 will out handle the Cat as thats where it shines, in a few weeks I'm gunna take my Cat on my first road course event and see how it does. Not expecting to break Nurburgring lap times or anything but just to have fun with it and understand the car better even in something that it's not it's strong suit but heard others who have experience in road coursing it have done surprisingly well with the car for what it is.

Those set of mods are a great combo on the Z28 but since that Z is a strain on the wallet you could always consider a C6 Corvette Grand sport. The C6 GS platform is even lighter than the Z28 from anywhere around 3100-3300 lbs, handles very well, they have bullet proof LS3 engines that you can make great power out of, has a wide body on it and also large enough brakes for stopping power.

You could also look into the C6 Z06 since it has the same LS7 engine as the Z28 if thats your thing but I figure I bring up the Grand sport since it's cheaper and the LS3 is more reliable. The C6 is definitely a bang for the buck budget wise and they can come in a 6 speed as well. Not really sure if Corvettes your thing but figure I bring it up incase.
 

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Agree a Z28 will out handle the Cat as thats where it shines, in a few weeks I'm gunna take my Cat on my first road course event and see how it does. Not expecting to break Nurburgring lap times or anything but just to have fun with it and understand the car better even in something that it's not it's strong suit but heard others who have experience in road coursing it have done surprisingly well with the car for what it is.

Those set of mods are a great combo on the Z28 but since that Z is a strain on the wallet you could always consider a C6 Corvette Grand sport. The C6 GS platform is even lighter than the Z28 from anywhere around 3100-3300 lbs, handles very well, they have bullet proof LS3 engines that you can make great power out of, has a wide body on it and also large enough brakes for stopping power.

You could also look into the C6 Z06 since it has the same LS7 engine as the Z28 if thats your thing but I figure I bring up the Grand sport since it's cheaper and the LS3 is more reliable. The C6 is definitely a bang for the buck budget wise and they can come in a 6 speed as well. Not really sure if Corvettes your thing but figure I bring it up incase.
Corvettes would totally be my thing If I wasn't a hefty 300lb 6'9'' man-child lol

I really wanted a C6 zr1 and ALMOST got one years ago when they were in the 60k range, but when I tried to drive it I just realized how it wouldn't work. Even guestimating a seat rehinge idea with a tape measure wouldn't allow me to comfortably heal/toe and drive the car like its meant to be. Opted for a 2012 GT500 instead and did a ton of work to it, to try and beef up that weak 550 number. That's honestly why I still am leaning toward another HC when they drop the manual in WB redeyes (fingers crossed). I drove a buddies 5th Gen ZL1 and since they share the same interior, I think the z28 is (again, WAS now that I see the 60k price tag) the best option for N/A all weather power and handling. I drove a 6th gen 1LE track pack ZL1 about 2 months before I snagged the cat, just to see how they were (had a buddy at the dealership that just wanted to go for a rip) and they were surprisingly roomy. I was able to do as I needed to really drive the car properly. Doubt the same could be said for a Vette.

I had a 69 Camaro RS clone/track car that was heavily modded for my big ass to fit comfortably, and the amount of work that went into that was insane, couldn't imagine needing to do the same thing to a God-Tier zr1 or even a regular c6. Surprisingly the C7 is actually a bit bigger due to the lack of restriction in the knee area from the console. I considered one of those maybe a Z06 version but again, price tag is a big factor. Buying a house soon and I don't wanna tap myself out.

Please please get some good videos of you at the track with your Cat, there's another user on here that just got his license for track and I think he hit the ring but doesn't have any footage. Nothing good on youtube either. But there is an insane video of the Z28 here; ► 2014 Camaro Z28 Takes on Nürburging - YouTube

Thing absolutely rips.
 

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