Investment; SS or Ghost?
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In my opinion, I would say the Super Stock. None of these special cars have been impressive, and the Ghost is a let down. The contact paper roof cover doesn't cut it. Looks cheap in my opinion. Should have been real vinyl material as the original car. The bright wheels are a no no as well. Should have had black wheels like to original car
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IMOP as I won TWO low number mopars, no value in these cars. The VAUE is how its optioned and the want. I LOVE BOTH of mine as they are almost perfect and did not have to pay the MSRP game as the both are BRAND new crate cars.
One was $50K MSRP, bought $35K. Next was $91K for $89K. Value should climb after 30 years plus.LOL (Never bought to flip)
The VALUE on both of mine was under MSRP and low miles. So IMOP mine are BRAND new and STUIPD happy with both.
Buying any fast car used with 5K miles PLUS is risky at best, our rule is under 1k miles. Here any cat is beat to death and $80K+ and wounded with under 10K miles !!!
One was $50K MSRP, bought $35K. Next was $91K for $89K. Value should climb after 30 years plus.LOL (Never bought to flip)
The VALUE on both of mine was under MSRP and low miles. So IMOP mine are BRAND new and STUIPD happy with both.
Buying any fast car used with 5K miles PLUS is risky at best, our rule is under 1k miles. Here any cat is beat to death and $80K+ and wounded with under 10K miles !!!
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SS all day long
Lots of cars are investments. Demon, example 1. Is it silly to think that a SS driven 3k miles a year will almost double in 6 years?
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Um no, market will dictate that not the car.
Hell man Chevy Vega's are bringing stupid money now.......
I think that if both cars are kept clean and low mileage they will do well. If the original Ghost ever hits the open market in auction could be a 7 figure car (Rich guy collection) based upon never being restored and the fact Dodge made a tribute car etc. The Super Stock will always be the Demons little brother.
Then you’ll have 1400 Super Stocks and only 300 tribute cars even if cheesy roof decal or lesser performance than Super Stock (not by much) Ghost May surprise you IMO.
Fastest production car v legendary tribute to 7 figure car.
Today I would choose the Super Stock but wouldn’t be surprised if sticker edition holds significant value. After all Black Ghost MSRP will likely be higher than most Super Stocks.
Then you’ll have 1400 Super Stocks and only 300 tribute cars even if cheesy roof decal or lesser performance than Super Stock (not by much) Ghost May surprise you IMO.
Fastest production car v legendary tribute to 7 figure car.
Today I would choose the Super Stock but wouldn’t be surprised if sticker edition holds significant value. After all Black Ghost MSRP will likely be higher than most Super Stocks.
Dodge should have made Black Ghost a Super Stock to begin with IMO. Would have been a better tribute.
I would be happy with either.
I would be happy with either.
Ghost without question. Was it 300 units to be built? Yes it’s a decal package but if they are limited/numbered then what you get for the money almost doesnt matter.
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Agree. Lots of cars are investments.
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I agree and at that amount they will sell out in minutes
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AND flipped, NEXT clown statement!!! Very few LOVE these, all about the coin...........
Yes, but car people and collectors aren't dumb. They know that the Demon was a serialized rare care with unique mechanical functions. Every Redeye, all sub-models included, are just Redeyes. The SS is just a Redeye with a software difference in the drive modes and factory drag radials + Demon-like brake package. That's it. The Jailbreak is just a Redeye from 2021.
I don't foresee the SS being worth $1 more than a typical REWB. It's "rare" because it's wildly unpopular. Not because it's limited production. People just don't want them. Rare, undesirable mass produced cars are very, very rarely worth a premium on the collector market. In 50 years all the Redeyes will be worth something... similar to how even well preserved Ford Edsels are worth something today. I just don't think the SS will be worth a premium over any other REWB or Jailbreak. There's nothing rare about them, heck they don't even get a badge.
So you vote for the Ghost?
If you could get one, sure. But I'm of the mind that practically all of the special models will be bought by wealthy individuals sliding bribes to dealers to reserve them. As I mentioned before, I have a client who wants one of the Swinger editions. He's already paid $15,000 to a dealership (a large well known power broker) to be placed first in line to buy when it comes available. This was the 4th dealership I contacted on his behalf... the other 3 already had substantial "reservations."
Keep in mind that I was calling on those 2 days after the reveal. So, the backroom wheeling and dealing is already in full effect, and they haven't even made any of them nor announced which dealerships are getting them. I know one client who has put down refundable deposits on the Super Bee special edition, according to him, at 11 dealerships to ensure that when any of them gets one, he'll be first to get it.
I think, out of all of the special edition vehicles produced, I doubt you'll find 5 out of the entire lot that aren't pre-brokered in this fashion. Thus, expecting to go online and see which dealership is getting one in hopes of snagging one is a complete pipe dream.
To put it into perspective. I tried to order one of the Heritage Edition GT500s for myself this year. I was offering either a $25,000 reservation or a non-refundable, non-applicable $10,000 deposit (meaning, I was willing to buy an allocation for one for $10,000 and it not count towards the cost of the vehicle). To quote one of the dealers that had one coming, "I thank you for the offer sir, but there's several people ahead of you that are paying well in excess of $50,000 for this allocation." That particular vehicle sold for $182,000. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of my league.
You're going to see very similar levels of bribery... I mean, "negotiations" going on with the special edition HCs. We are already seeing it... and if someone isn't already maneuvering, today, the chances of actually getting one of these is going to be very, very small. You're basically going to have to find the 1 or 2 honest dealers in the country who refuse to take cash incentives and sell it to a physical first come, first serve buyer. Even then, those cars will be scoped by hundreds, if not thousands of people... and yeah. Still a small chance in that too.
Keep in mind that I was calling on those 2 days after the reveal. So, the backroom wheeling and dealing is already in full effect, and they haven't even made any of them nor announced which dealerships are getting them. I know one client who has put down refundable deposits on the Super Bee special edition, according to him, at 11 dealerships to ensure that when any of them gets one, he'll be first to get it.
I think, out of all of the special edition vehicles produced, I doubt you'll find 5 out of the entire lot that aren't pre-brokered in this fashion. Thus, expecting to go online and see which dealership is getting one in hopes of snagging one is a complete pipe dream.
To put it into perspective. I tried to order one of the Heritage Edition GT500s for myself this year. I was offering either a $25,000 reservation or a non-refundable, non-applicable $10,000 deposit (meaning, I was willing to buy an allocation for one for $10,000 and it not count towards the cost of the vehicle). To quote one of the dealers that had one coming, "I thank you for the offer sir, but there's several people ahead of you that are paying well in excess of $50,000 for this allocation." That particular vehicle sold for $182,000. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of my league.
You're going to see very similar levels of bribery... I mean, "negotiations" going on with the special edition HCs. We are already seeing it... and if someone isn't already maneuvering, today, the chances of actually getting one of these is going to be very, very small. You're basically going to have to find the 1 or 2 honest dealers in the country who refuse to take cash incentives and sell it to a physical first come, first serve buyer. Even then, those cars will be scoped by hundreds, if not thousands of people... and yeah. Still a small chance in that too.
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