[Himmelkat]

He says that Dodge patented this engine recently, and he believes it will replace the V8.

What I think is that if they used a clone of this engine, with two banks of cylinders, they would have themselves the next Viper engine: a V12, naturally aspirated.

Just putting that out there. It would properly exalt the Viper to superdupercar status, and make Viper owners feel good again since their engine wasn't being out-powered by a coupe.

But, I would prefer a V6 with an electrically-assisted turbo/generator with an energy recovery system, in my favorite F1 team's colors, just as a thought.

I double dog DARE dodge to call this thing the Slant Six and mount it, predictably, at an angle, so the intake ports are aligned straight vertical. canting it over to the passenger side would be a nice shift in cg to make up for the driver, too.

What do you all think?

 

[Himmelkat]

While I'm at it, could this be the originator of the Hellcat idea?

Saleen 5.7 Challenger.

 

[Himmelkat]

Also, this one:

 

[S8ER01Z]

Ugh so now I get to pick bad sounds or no sounds. Future is looking amazing!!!

 

[baabootoo]

I would LOVE an AWD Charger with ANY boosted smaller engine!

 

[Arabex]

He says that Dodge patented this engine recently, and he believes it will replace the V8.

What I think is that if they used a clone of this engine, with two banks of cylinders, they would have themselves the next Viper engine: a V12, naturally aspirated.

Just putting that out there. It would properly exalt the Viper to superdupercar status, and make Viper owners feel good again since their engine wasn't being out-powered by a coupe.

But, I would prefer a V6 with an electrically-assisted turbo/generator with an energy recovery system, in my favorite F1 team's colors, just as a thought.

I double dog DARE dodge to call this thing the Slant Six and mount it, predictably, at an angle, so the intake ports are aligned straight vertical. canting it over to the passenger side would be a nice shift in cg to make up for the driver, too.

What do you all think?

The 6 Inline GMT engine it does exist and it's been in development for at least 5 years, I work with someone who used to work at Chrysler's engine development center and he confirmed me that earlier this year.

that 6 cylinder will replace the 5.7 and 6.4 engines and surely I can see it paired with electric engines, chrysler is already doing that with the Pacifica Hybrid and it works like a charm. I actually think this will be a more cost effective way to own a Grand Cherokee L, a Wagoneer a RAM 1500/2500 hauling and saving fuel without sacrificing performance at all, will it sound great? who knows...

Will have to wait and see what shape and form will eventually be released and implemented...

 

[tacamo01]

BMW has a great turbo inline 6 that makes 505 hp. Put on a couple of electric motors and you are well over 700 hp

 

[Mattm400]

This is sad. The American big V8 holds a place in my heart. That and a Harley Davidson.
The new wave may be quicker and more efficient. But its no replacement, the future is looking bleak.

 

[Himmelkat]

BMW has a great turbo inline 6 that makes 505 hp. Put on a couple of electric motors and you are well over 700 hp

Who cares? The pushrod V8 has more significance than pleasing some fanboi of lager-shlurping autobahn gallopers.

Did you know if you get enough Lada motors in a row, you, too, can end up with 700hp?

In fact, someone went towards that:

 

[Himmelkat]

This is sad. The American big V8 holds a place in my heart. That and a Harley Davidson.
The new wave may be quicker and more efficient. But its no replacement, the future is looking bleak.

The future past the immediate future, however, is looking very bright and shiny.
Remove cancer, have healthy patient.
Also, remove parasites loyal to foreign nations, and have healthy nation.

I have told them this for years. Same engine, run to 2500 RPM would deliver fantastic mileage, cammed for super-low-rpm-grunt. Then they could "leak" kits that open it up to 7000 rpm and act outraged with Offended Outrage that people were actually modifying the stock engines?

Such heinousness. Meanwhile, where is the mainstream coverage of Epstein's flight log, which BTW, the Hollywood hit man Alec Baldwin rapidly erased his Instagram after his name was found on the flight log?

The change will be quite revolutionary. The same weirdos who shriek in unison about the climate do NOTHING about China, Africa, and worldwide shipping.

And people are getting tired of them.

 

[baabootoo]

BMW has a great turbo inline 6 that makes 505 hp. Put on a couple of electric motors and you are well over 700 hp

Exactly!! They've been using it a long time, and it works.

 

[HellcatHellYeah]

Seems like an American version of a German car, just add turbos to a 6 cylinder. Why are they making this car? Dodge says the combustion engine engine is dead in 24' but they are developing a new configuration for an ICE? Sounds like the big blocks are going away but they plan on making some hybrid replacement to placate the ICE diehards? While some 6 cylinders are impressive I don't think Mopar guys are going to jump on board. Can anyone explain why they are doing this? It seems to be geared towards yuppies and not the faithful.

 

[Big Swede]

Seems like an American version of a German car, just add turbos to a 6 cylinder. Why are they making this car? Dodge says the combustion engine engine is dead in 24' but they are developing a new configuration for an ICE? Sounds like the big blocks are going away but they plan on making some hybrid replacement to placate the ICE diehards? While some 6 cylinders are impressive I don't think Mopar guys are going to jump on board. Can anyone explain why they are doing this? It seems to be geared towards yuppies and not the faithful.

They never said the ICE is going away in 2024 they said the Hellcat motor is done then.

 

[Himmelkat]

Seems like an American version of a German car, just add turbos to a 6 cylinder. Why are they making this car? Dodge says the combustion engine engine is dead in 24' but they are developing a new configuration for an ICE? Sounds like the big blocks are going away but they plan on making some hybrid replacement to placate the ICE diehards? While some 6 cylinders are impressive I don't think Mopar guys are going to jump on board. Can anyone explain why they are doing this? It seems to be geared towards yuppies and not the faithful.

What it is is another coordinated assault on the American oil industry, where too many people who don't vote for pedos work, a coordinated boost of the solar and "alternative methods of murdering birds" electrical power generation lobby, which is largely money "donated" by those who make money off of electricity generation and storage technologies, and a host of other nefarious reasons.

The only "respiratory problem" those who stand up against this are going to be experiencing, as Nirvana said, "Choking on the ashes of her enemy."

What did Child Sniffer in Chief do almost the day he was fakenaugurated? shut down pipeline construction. Why? Because too many fellow pedos were making money off of it? No, because too many were NOT.

Quiverquant is where you can see the future of America, as it is a site that shows what the traitors in Congress are buying in the stock market to take advantage of their evil plans, which they usually telegraph in some form in advance by buying a stock that will profit from it.

The West is becoming a series of detached, out-of-touch Bolshevik regimes. They will fall, and they will fall very, very hard, as the people are literally sick and literally tired of them.

It ain't just the small block Hemi that will come back, but a big-block version, also.

 

[BigDaddyEureka]

Ooooooooohkay, back on the engine topic here...

I was thinking EXACTLY the same thing on the V12 @Himmelkat...excellent option for a future Viper. Speaking of which, has anyone with a Viper and a blown engine done a Hellcat swap yet?

 

[BigDaddyEureka]

I would LOVE an AWD Charger with ANY boosted smaller engine!

^^THIS^^

They'd sell at least TWO!

 

[Himmelkat]

Can you imagine the Euroclimateshriekers cringing and shrieking and blubbering and having a Climate Summit (they all attend in their private jets) and whatever it is those climate psychos do at the thought of a DOHC 4-valve 600 cubic inch V12 American car that curb-stomped everyone else around the Nurburgring (again?)

They would put the Atacama to shame, it would be so wonderful. Any time crazy people lose, the rest of the world wins, and vice versa.
They could give it an actually efficient rear wing, unlike the cute little parachute they have on the Viper ACR, maybe in the same profile as P51 or P38 wing, or maybe resembling the tail of the P38.

Aluminum AND magnesium and carbon fiber would be desirable for materials. I bet Dodge could bring it in under 3200 pounds, causing more potential trauma at Zuffenhausen and Fiorano.

Would they call it the Viper or the Overlord (to really rub in the concept of a huge American invasion.)

 

[snobrdrdan]

Yup...it's coming:

500+ hp Stellantis 'Hurricane' I6 paves the way for a world without Hemis

Stellantis isn't quite ready to say goodbye to gasoline but the new 'Hurricane' inline-6 is far more efficient than its aging V8s.

www.autoblog.com

 

[786Kitty]

Seems like an American version of a German car, just add turbos to a 6 cylinder. Why are they making this car? Dodge says the combustion engine engine is dead in 24' but they are developing a new configuration for an ICE? Sounds like the big blocks are going away but they plan on making some hybrid replacement to placate the ICE diehards? While some 6 cylinders are impressive I don't think Mopar guys are going to jump on board. Can anyone explain why they are doing this? It seems to be geared towards yuppies and not the faithful.

This!

 

[786Kitty]

They never said the ICE is going away in 2024 they said the Hellcat motor is done then.

My wife's Honda Odyssey with a 3.5L V6 gets 16.5 MPG. It got up to 21 on a 600 mile trip that was 95% highway miles.
My former Charger Hellcat (stolen March 7th) use to get 13 MPG on 100% city driving when I wasn't on it. On a 500 mile highway trip, I got almost 24 MPG. Funny thing is that Honda isn't planning on scrapping their V6; but Dodge/Chrysler/FCA/Stellantis is dropping the 6.2L and 392 for the Turbo Charged It's. I guarantee that these engines will be less than 10% more efficient than the animals they are replacing. Shouldn't it be our call if the gas money is coming from our pockets? To me it ain't worth it.