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Observations: my Ferrari F12 and my Charger Hellcat

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An unexpected comparison I know, but I have owned a Ferrari F12 for some time and recently bought a Charger Hellcat.
I have been mightily impressed by the raw power and torque and the overall execution of the relatively modestly-priced Charger Hellcat. It seems to have bottomless amounts of power/torque, at pretty well any RPM, and surprisingly, it pulls strongly all the way to it 6200 RPM redline. That is coupled to a nicely-geared ZF automatic transmission, which works as well as any automatic ever made. It sounds good, at idle, part throttle, and flat out. And when you are “on it”, it does not feel like it is going to self-destruct … or kill you.
I liked the car so much, that I drove it exclusively for 3 winter weeks in a row, for a total of 2000 kms.
Then I decided it was time to take the F12 out for a quick spin.
Although the two cars have about the same hp. the Hellcat has about 40% more torque, but weighs about 15% (600 lbs) more.
Based on objective accelerometer tests I have done, the two cars pull equally strong G-forces in 3rd and 4th gears (not enough winter traction to test the Hellcat in 1st and 2nd). However, subjectively, the F12 surprised me by how much more ferocious and relentless it felt – and of course, it pulls all the way to a 8500 RPM redline, so the acceleration seems to go on forever.
Interestingly, although the F12 has considerably less torque, the F12 feels more like it is going to tear itself apart (in a good way – not flimsy), from the extraordinary power.
Obviously, while objectively very close, at least in those 2 gears, the combination of the sound from the V12 at 8000 RPM, the “feel” and the “fury” from that high-revving engine, deliver a very different subjective experience.
The other surprise is how much more traction the very sophisticated E-diff and F1-Trac on the Ferrari manage to find on the same roads, at the same temperatures, and using the exact same Pirelli winter tires. While traction is a serious issue on the Hellcat (not surprising), it is not an issue on the F12, even in winter. Remarkable technology indeed.
So in the end, I was relieved to discover that the F12 still delivers an unrivalled overall experience (a good thing since it costs 6 X more than the much-better-equipped Hellcat!), BUT the fact that the Hellcat can even be considered for such a comparison is a remarkable achievement for the other FIAT branch!
Very glad to have both – both are extraordinary cars.
What a great time/era for car nuts that we are living in!
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Nice write up
 

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Adopt me...;)

"Dad, can I take the F12 out tonight? I promise to fill it up when I return....":D
At 8 bux or more a gallon I bet it won't be:D
 

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Nice read and good to hear from someone that actually owns both and not just a journalist taking them for an afternoon comparison test. The fact that the Hellcat is mentioned in the same sentence as the Ferrari is a win in my book. I just took my Hellcat for one of its probably last drives of the year, as I will not run this thing with the chemicals they use on the roads now in the winter. I could not resist taking it out though and what a ride. Definitely need to be way more cautious when the temps are like this (sub 40 degrees) and the road had a slight mist over it. Recipe for disaster. I did enjoy doing some tricks for a couple of dudes trying to follow me in a newer Evo. After rolling off from a traffic light, I would just give her some throttle in like 2nd gear and I could just drift down the road while accelerating and banging the next couple gears. Once the car finally hooks it is lights out Charlie. If you drive the car mild mannerly, sometimes you get a bit to wondering if it was "worth it" to get the car, but after a ride like today when I was actually just driving for the sake of driving and getting on it a bit, you realize how much of a "super car" it really is. And to top it off, my new escort radar detector (Christmas Present) just got delivered by the USPS. Good day indeed.
 

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Great feedback. I think that anybody who thinks that the Hellcat is an overall better car than a Ferrari is not clearly or objectively thinking. I love the hellcat but I would love to own a Ferrari and when I finally make it in life I will own one.
 

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Great analysis of two great cars. I own a HC Challenger A8 and my best friend has a F12 (and a Nismo GTR). Recently we played on a deserted road and my Cat ate his lunch for the first 900 feet until he came screaming up on me. He then brought out the GTR with the same result. I love my Cat and the way it launches puts a smile on my face every time I drive her. Its an incredible machine for the price but I also understand its limitations and the fact that I won't be able to stop/steer like a super car that costs 3-5 times more.

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The Hellcats are just incredible value for money. I love the feel of old school muscle but with modern day underpinnings. It is not intrusive and just makes it work and work well. I've driven a lot of cars over my years from the Bugatti Veyron, Enzo, a wide variety of Lamborghini's, Ferrari's, Porsche's, Pagani Zonda all sorts. Is it all things to all men. No it is not. But it makes me smile very time I drive it. Just in case anyone asks the Veyron is the most complete car. However unless I lived in Germany it is not for me. Money aside. If I had an autobahn next door to me absolutely. It really is just to good at going very very fast at complete ease. Imagine 200+ feeling at complete ease. Incredible.
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Thanks for sharing your perspective. Can you post a pic of your F12? A pic with the two cars together?
 

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Does anyone know what country the OP of this thread lives in. He may have stated that in his post but I missed
it if he did.

Lucky fellow regardless of where he lives!
 

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Nice to see the comparison. My goal for last year was to buy the F12 for myself, but I shifted my career (and priorities) so that goal is now offset to next year.

I'd be interested in hearing more comparisons between the two. One thing that I wonder about more than anything is daily livability. The main reason I want the F12 is because this is the 1st Ferrari to encompass all of their performance AND be a true daily driver. It supposedly doesn't buck and lurch when you're forced to drive slowly (like rush hour), has a much tamer suspension setting for the street, so on and so forth... how does it compare in daily driving scenarios to the Hellcat?

How about interior comfort? The F12 is supposed to be the most comfortable Ferrari made. Most were simply made for 5' 6", 150lb Italians, so the seats were not padded enough for touring comfort and you felt folded in half because they never went back far enough to keep you from sitting up on the wheel and pedals.

Any other comparos would be great, thanks.
 

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I would be interested. I drove a friends 599 that in truth he does not particularly like as it rattles and squeaks quite a lot. Did go well though :D
 
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