[GreenMan0352]

I’m wanting to order a pedal commander but I’m wondering if there are better bang for the buck options? My car is still under warranty so I am not wanting to do any major mods just yet. I had seen sprinter also but is it actually better than pedal commander? I understand they don’t add HP but I think they look fun. Having a car that puts a smile on your face is the whole point isn’t it?

Where I’m at in the process is that I think they are cool and all but I’m finding it hard to justify paying $300 for one. If they were priced at around $150 then I would be happier paying that much. I’ve checked Ebay and Mercari but no such luck as of yet. I know it’s a long shot but are there any tricks to getting one cheaper? I know they have the veteran discount deal through GovX but that only knocks off $35 and I’m not really wanting to spend $300 for something I might not even keep. If nothing else I would just put it on my wife’s 300 but if anyone knows some vendor or site that has it for less. Or even a discount code I would greatly appreciate the help.

 

[Blkout]

I think they're great, its nothing more than a glorified throttle controller. Some people like more sensitivity in their throttle pedal and some don't. The beauty of these devices is you can adjust it to your liking and its very noticeable.

 

[GreenMan0352]

I think they're great, its nothing more than a glorified throttle controller. Some people like more sensitivity in their throttle pedal and some don't. The beauty of these devices is you can adjust it to your liking and its very noticeable.

I agree. I haven’t got to try one yet but from the reading and videos I would say that is spot on. My problem is I know you can get your car tuned to respond like one of these but my only issue is I don’t want to throw any codes. I’m riding out the warranty and then I will mod mine.

 

[Spartacus]

I don't understand why you'd want to tamper with the throttle sensitivity.
Seems like a bad idea to me.

Strapping a brick to the gas pedal and just using Drive & Neutral would work too.
It would be much cheaper, for the first 10 seconds anyway. (Don't do that)

 

[Jonx96]

If you plan on getting a tune at some point the tune can do the same thing.

 

[motorheadmike]

I use an Injen unit... helps a lot with driveability in a stick car.

 

[HemiMetal]

I installed a pedal commander on my RT and it was a great way to beat factory throttle lag but it would throw throttle sensor CELs if I changed modes while the car was in motion or braking. The Pedal Monster is a better solution.

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[GreenMan0352]

I don't understand why you'd want to tamper with the throttle sensitivity.
Seems like a bad idea to me.

Strapping a brick to the gas pedal and just using Drive & Neutral would work too.
It would be much cheaper, for the first 10 seconds anyway. (Don't do that)

I understand the argument but I’m trying to add it to remove some of the lag in the programming of the factory settings. If I put a brick that doesn’t remove the lag that just raised the throttle percentage. I watched a video of I believe HHP (I may be mistaken) saying the pedal commander is a waste of money. You can get a tune and they can reprogram the parameters for your pedals input which is what the pedal commander does.

I do plan on eventually doing a tune and pulley swap etc. but for now I would like to remove some of the lag. If I can get it to behave like an older muscle car that worked mechanically that would be something I personally would like to do. It isn’t a $300 upgrade to me though so that’s why I’m trying to find a cheaper route and if I find a better manufacturer along the way then even better.

 

[Blkout]

I agree. I haven’t got to try one yet but from the reading and videos I would say that is spot on. My problem is I know you can get your car tuned to respond like one of these but my only issue is I don’t want to throw any codes. I’m riding out the warranty and then I will mod mine.

Not really though, you can get your car tuned to be more responsive but that's not the same as having a throttle controller in your car that you can adjust with over 20 levels of sensitivity whenever you want. You can adjust it on the fly to whatever suits you. One must remember with these that all you're doing is adjusting the sensitivity of the throttle pedal, its like adjusting your mouse sensitivity on your computer. You're not changing any engine parameters, you're only adjusting how far you have to push the pedal to reach WOT.

 

[GreenMan0352]

Not really though, you can get your car tuned to be more responsive but that's not the same as having a throttle controller in your car that you can adjust with over 20 levels of sensitivity whenever you want. You can adjust it on the fly to whatever suits you. One must remember with these that all you're doing is adjusting the sensitivity of the throttle pedal, its like adjusting your mouse sensitivity on your computer. You're not changing any engine parameters, you're only adjusting how far you have to push the pedal to reach WOT.

I get what you are saying and I’m not arguing but for me I’m just wanting to remove the lag. That’s why I’m saying with a tune I would be able to achieve what I am after with the pedal commander. I don’t need 20 settings I mainly just want the lag gone.

 

[Blkout]

I get what you are saying and I’m not arguing but for me I’m just wanting to remove the lag. That’s why I’m saying with a tune I would be able to achieve what I am after with the pedal commander. I don’t need 20 settings I mainly just want the lag gone.

Throttle controller won't fix that most likely depending on what you're calling lag.

 

[GreenMan0352]

Throttle controller won't fix that most likely depending on what you're calling lag.

I certainly hope it does especially since that’s what they say they are designed to do 😂

 

[Blkout]

I certainly hope it does especially since that’s what they say they are designed to do 😂 View attachment 594721

Again, it comes down to your definition of lag. All its capable of doing is applying more throttle with less pedal travel or vice versa depending on your settings. Again, the best analogy I can give you is that it's like adjusting your mouse sensitivity on your computer. More sensitive means you move the mouse less to make the cursor move, less sensitive means you move the mouse more to make the cursor move. Adjusting mouse sensitivity does not change the actual lag of the cursor, it only means that you have to move your mouse more or less to accomplish the same result. These controllers do exactly that. I'm glad you find it amusing. I've been trying to help you but if you think what I'm telling you is a joke then good luck to you in whatever you decide. I've explained it the best I could at this point, you either get it or you don't, regardless of marketing material.

 

[GreenMan0352]

Again, it comes down to your definition of lag. All its capable of doing is applying more throttle with less pedal travel or vice versa depending on your settings. Again, the best analogy I can give you is that it's like adjusting your mouse sensitivity on your computer. More sensitive means you move the mouse less to make the cursor move, less sensitive means you move the mouse more to make the cursor move. Adjusting mouse sensitivity does not change the actual lag of the cursor, it only means that you have to move your mouse more or less to accomplish the same result. These controllers do exactly that. I'm glad you find it amusing. I've been trying to help you but if you think what I'm telling you is a joke then good luck to you in whatever you decide. I've explained it the best I could at this point, you either get it or you don't, regardless of marketing material.

No need to get your feelings hurt. We are saying the same thing. I understand how it works. My original question didn’t pertain to how they functioned or to whether or not it was worth it. My question was if anyone knew where to get one for cheaper than the MSRP. I can do the veteran discount route but that’s only $35 off and still not in the ballpark of what I’m willing to pay for one. I figured ebay and Mercari would be my next best bet but I wanted to see if there were other sites that resale them aside from the two aforementioned. I understand it is only changing the set points. I also understand the analogy you used. I change my controller set points for most games to help with lag, so yes I understand.

 

[2ndAmend]

OP: Be advised that some of the participants in this thread do not own HC's.

I had one and used it for a few weeks, then sold it. I hoped it would help the throttle lag in the M6. Often when giving gas while letting out the clutch the lag would force me to push on the clutch again to give the throttle another 1/4 sec or so to catch up. The PC did not help at all. It does what is advertises, but it does not fix inherent characteristics.

Also, if you have a RE, you have no need for a PC.

 

[motorheadmike]

Not really though, you can get your car tuned to be more responsive but that's not the same as having a throttle controller in your car that you can adjust with over 20 levels of sensitivity whenever you want. You can adjust it on the fly to whatever suits you. One must remember with these that all you're doing is adjusting the sensitivity of the throttle pedal, its like adjusting your mouse sensitivity on your computer. You're not changing any engine parameters, you're only adjusting how far you have to push the pedal to reach WOT.

Reminds me of my younger years...

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[Blkout]

OP: Be advised that some of the participants in this thread do not own HC's.

I had one and used it for a few weeks, then sold it. I hoped it would help the throttle lag in the M6. Often when giving gas while letting out the clutch the lag would force me to push on the clutch again to give the throttle another 1/4 sec or so to catch up. The PC did not help at all. It does what is advertises, but it does not fix inherent characteristics.

Also, if you have a RE, you have no need for a PC.

I'm 100% positive everyone in this thread owns or has owned a Hellcat or several. A Redeye has nothing to do with the lag he feels like he's experiencing. What a moronic statement.

 

[2ndAmend]

Ok, I'll issue a correct statement:

OP: There is at least one participant in this thread that does not own a HC. Guess who?!?!?

What is truly moronic is someone giving advice on a PC in a HC but has never even tried a PC, let along in a HC!!! LOL!!!

 

[Blkout]

Ok, I'll issue a correct statement:

OP: There is at least one participant in this thread that does not own a HC. Guess who?!?!?

What is truly moronic is someone giving advice on a PC in a HC but has never even tried a PC, let along in a HC!!! LOL!!!

Your ignorance is amusing. Not only have I had three Hellcats, my Challenger Hellcat had a Pedal Commander for over 2 years. Do I need to provide proof to show what an idiot you are? Try me but before you answer though, you may want to search the forums threads. Checkmate.

 

[SickToo]

If you plan on getting a tune at some point the tune can do the same thing.

No HC here but it’s just math. If you will be tuning don’t waste the money. What he said ^^^