[cam1217]

So my car is waiting to be shipped out , just got my window sticker tonight. On the base price it says it’s about 2.5 k more than what I had signed when I put the deposit down and agreed on the price with my sales rep and dealership .
It’s the manufacturers suggested price which is 2.5k higher. I already talked to my sales rep about that they will absolutely not mark my built car up. Will I be fine with all of this and pay what I had agreed and sign to pay ? This is the first time I’m ever doing this, insights and answers would definitely be appreciated.

 

[Ross61]

F U C Teed.

j/k.

 

[JS23V0B]

Can you compare line by line? Maybe the dealer forgot guzzler tax or delivery?

 

[Slowpoke387]

This is becoming common. Dealer isnt marking your car up, the manufacturer is. MSRP keeps shooting up even after deals are made and it’s really not a good look for Stellantis.

 

[Germansheperd]

They will keep it the same price because they have a 3k mark up from invoice to MSRP, over $1050 in BS fees, and approx $2400 in HB.
So all-in-all they have about $6500 in juice so they can absorb the 2k and still make $4500 and even more if you finance.

 

[PaulMC]

Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price is just that. It's suggested. As long as you have a signed purchase order, unusual circumstances notwithstanding, that's the price that you're going to pay.

In a situation where the price shifts from what is on the signed purchase order, any dealer worth their weight will do everything in their power to get the number as close to what they promised.
For reference, when I originally ordered my car, MSRP was about $84k and change. When I received my VIN 6 days later, that MSRP had jumped to just under $2k over the original and was about 11k over what my purchase agreement stated. When my car arrived 4 1/2 months later, I paid what was on my original purchase order and not a dime over.

They will keep it the same price because they have a 3k mark up from invoice to MSRP, over $1050 in BS fees, and approx $2400 in HB.
So all-in-all they have about $6500 in juice so they can absorb the 2k and still make $4500 and even more if you finance.

Great point. If you want to get a leg up on them, bring your own financing. Dealers make the bulk of their money by getting people to finance through their lenders.

 

[PaulMC]

Mods. Please delete this individual post. Duplicate from previous.

 

[GreenMachine15]

Inflation on materials is what is screwing the consumer. Steel, copper, etc.
Building an automobile is basically like playing in a stock market, as prices increase from suppliers $.05 from tuesday to wednesday, that just keeps getting dumped on down to the buyer day after day. Some dealers dump it on the customer, some eat it. What we have learned from the covid shutdowns is this, when all manufacturers were at a stop, they completely played with the used market to increase pricing, this in turn made people order and wait for new vehicles if they could. Every manufacturer did it, and it screwed the american people, our government couldn't stop it and made it #2 on their inflation list, just behind gasoline.
It is sad that the consumer has zero control on this market.

 

[Germansheperd]

Mods. delete please

Lol what? You make a post then want it deleted? You are not even the OP.

 

[Confuzed2]

This is becoming common. Dealer isnt marking your car up, the manufacturer is. MSRP keeps shooting up even after deals are made and it’s really not a good look for Stellantis.

I've never seen the manufacturer suddenly raise MSRP at all before this year. Heck, I waited 8 months to get my first '15 Hellcat and the price stayed the same. Seems the only thing that's changed since then is a supply issue.....and Stellantis. Agree....a bad look for them going forward...

 

[baabootoo]

Ford CEO Asks Dealers to End Markups, Plans Punishment

DUDE, COMPLAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Germansheperd]

I've never seen the manufacturer suddenly raise MSRP at all before this year. Heck, I waited 8 months to get my first '15 Hellcat and the price stayed the same. Seems the only thing that's changed since then is a supply issue.....and Stellantis. Agree....a bad look for them going forward...

The car companies typically raise their MSRP 2-3x during the calendar model year. They typically do the last in June/Jul so when the new models come out in Aug/Sept the can advertise only a 3% YOY- yeah well you just raised the previous model year a month or two ago.

 

[Germansheperd]

Ford CEO Asks Dealers to End Markups, Plans Punishment

DUDE, COMPLAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Smoke and mirrors. Its over taking crazy money for waiting list- taking 10k to get on a list and no vehicle. The company can not set or regulate the selling price at the dealer level its in the dealer agreement.

 

[cam1217]

Can you compare line by line? Maybe the dealer forgot guzzler tax or delivery?

What seems to be different is the MSRP suggested price compared to when I ordered

 

[cam1217]

Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price is just that. It's suggested. As long as you have a signed purchase order, unusual circumstances notwithstanding, that's the price that you're going to pay.

In a situation where the price shifts from what is on the signed purchase order, any dealer worth their weight will do everything in their power to get the number as close to what they promised.
For reference, when I originally ordered my car, MSRP was about $84k and change. When I received my VIN 6 days later, that MSRP had jumped to just under $2k over the original and was about 11k over what my purchase agreement stated. When my car arrived 4 1/2 months later, I paid what was on my original purchase order and not a dime over.

Great point. If you want to get a leg up on them, bring your own financing. Dealers make the bulk of their money by getting people to finance through their lenders.

That's what I had signed in the pic I posted. After that I put the deposit down. The only thing that can change is the trade in value because I can obviously sell my car somewhere else and get more money for it.

 

[Xylander]

This is becoming common. Dealer isnt marking your car up, the manufacturer is. MSRP keeps shooting up even after deals are made and it’s really not a good look for Stellantis.

Inflation is a hell of a thing. Inflation increased a half point between December and January alone.

 

[JS23V0B]

I know Ford dealers can guarantee you a price and get reimbursed by Ford if the price increases, I imagine Dodge has a similar process.

 

[Tannehill]

Sold order vehicle pricing is protected for both dealer and buyer of order. These increases affect dealer floor plans too. Depending on latest practice, dealer enters a code or "checks a box", during final invoicing in their system.

Now....it's the dealer's car, if they want to play dumb and/or not give it, and stick to their guns that's the new pricing...nothing you can do as long as they return any money deposited if you don't take the car.

 

[JS23V0B]

Well, you could take it for a "test drive"

 

[Slowpoke387]

Sold order vehicle pricing is protected for both dealer and buyer of order. These increases effect dealer floor plans too. Depending on latest practice, dealer enters a code or "checks a box", during final invoicing in their system.

Now....it's the dealer's car, if they want to play dumb and/or not give it, and stick to their guns that's the new pricing...nothing you can do as long as they return any money deposited if you don't take the car.

Agreed. A dealer can say “sorry but the MSRP went up so suck it up buttercup.” OR they can honor the signed agreement and possibly have to eat a small increase but honor/save the retail deal. No different than an unexpected repair in the used car business before the sale. We’re not about to raise the price due to an unexpected cost after making a deal. We can cancel the sale or honor it but raising it is a giant no-no. The difference here is these cars are in high demand, no supply. Theyre literally throwing money away if they do the right thing.