[Scatrat1]

Any one else annoyed by the Pirelli tires picking up on every little deformity in the road manipulating the steering to a degree at times to include feeling even the smallest of pebbles in the road from these junk tires or is it me being to critical of these tires?

 

[frictioncircle]

If they are run flats like the SUV's then they have very little sidewall compliance and give a somewhat harsh feeling ride..On my Durangos they also wore down very fast..like 8k and corded...

 

[Blickie]

Any one else annoyed by the Pirelli tires picking up on every little deformity in the road manipulating the steering to a degree at times to include feeling even the smallest of pebbles in the road from these junk tires or is it me being to critical of these tires?

It's not the Pirellis. It's the wide tires, which all wide tires do & camber ruts in the road really influence wide tires.

 

[BigDaddyEureka]

Yeah @Blickie hit the nail on the head...wide tires like to tramline a lot, but you CAN make things a lot better and even world class with a really good alignment dialed into the right specs.

Mostly the OE PZeros suck for traction and durability, so just give it a minute and they will wear off and you can get something better. For some reason my rears wore out first...can't imagine how that happened....

 

[davejpierson]

To me the OE Pirellis are the classic comprise of characteristics. Not an easy car to fit tires and have them be somewhat safe. I switched to Michelin’s Pilot Sport. They are better in every way, except tread life. Too soft to last long.


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[davejpierson]

Michelin Pilot 4S in the stock size


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[Himmelkat]

To me the OE Pirellis are the classic comprise of characteristics. Not an easy car to fit tires and have them be somewhat safe.

Never mind the Hankook, Goodyear, Michelin, Nitto, Toyo, Bridgestone, Mickey Thompson, Hoosier, etc. brands.

No the Hellcat tires from Pirelli are a big "SCREW YOU" from Pirelli because they got bid way too low for the contract to provide them and/or a result of (latest company to own Chrysler) going too cheap on what was accepted, or something.

 

[Xylander]

To me the OE Pirellis are the classic comprise of characteristics. Not an easy car to fit tires and have them be somewhat safe. I switched to Michelin’s Pilot Sport. They are better in every way, except tread life. Too soft to last long.


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For funsies, do like me and get the Pilot Sport All Season 4s. 40k treadwear, and I have difficulty telling the difference between these and the PS4S summer tires. For an all-season tire, they are absolutely fantastic. I've put 11k miles on my set and they've only lost 2 32nds of tread (rotated once). I am not nice to my tires... but I also don't do rolling burnouts either.

 

[hc797]

My experience on a 21 redeye, normal, spirited, street driving, no burnouts, racing or launch control:

Pirelli All season - 3500 miles - worn out
Pirelli Max Summer - 5000 miles - worn out
Michelin PS4s - 7000 miles so far and still doing well - better in every category except one (still doing analysis)

 

[Scatrat1]

I never had the issue much with the Scat Pack tires unless the roads were really tramlined bad. But I never had Pirelli tires on the Scat Pack so that was why I was thinking tires. At times it seems the car has a mind of its own and very annoying! The alignment was out just a little too as Big mentioned per dealer when I took it and had it done at 2200 miles. The alignment helped a little but not much. Was just wanting to check it out with all of you before I junk these tires. If its the tires I have no problems dumping the annoying sob's.

 

[baabootoo]

They put them on these for one reason; they're cheap (and they meet the minimum speed rating.

Ultra High Performance All-Season Ratings Charts for 275/40-20 Tire Size (tirerack.com)

 

[Rockster]

It's not the Pirellis. It's the wide tires, which all wide tires do & camber ruts in the road really influence wide tires.

Exactly right. Previous cars came with Pirelli high performance tires, wide tires. Tramlining was noticeable. At some point switched to Michelin tires. Same behavior. Really between the Pirelli and Michelin high performance tires I could not tell which tires were on the car without looking.

With another car that at various times had Continental and Bridgestone high performance tires same thing. Tramlining. And this car had 11" wide rear tires so you can imagine.

Might also mention both of these cars had staggered -- from the factory -- front/wheel tire sizes. The fronts were narrower I suspect in part to reduce tramlining from the front tires.

My Hellcat had Pirelli all season tires. My Scat Pack has the Pirelli high performance tires. While the Scat Pack tires are prone to tramlining they are quite an improvement over the all season tires.

 

[BigDaddyEureka]

I'll put in a quick follow-up plug for the Conti DWS06+....here's that previous thread. Not a "max dry performance" setup but very awesome to live with every day.

If you thought wide tires were bad for tramlining, wait until you see the look of terror in squirrel's eyes when they see a set of 315s on all 4 corners rolling toward them. Might as well be a steamroller from their perspective and the outcome is pretty much the same!

 

[Himmelkat]

Tramlining is the road forcing the car in a certain direction with ruts or whatever. It is not about flattening rodents.

 

[furious70]

I'll put in a quick follow-up plug for the Conti DWS06+....here's that previous thread. Not a "max dry performance" setup but very awesome to live with every day.

If you thought wide tires were bad for tramlining, wait until you see the look of terror in squirrel's eyes when they see a set of 315s on all 4 corners rolling toward them. Might as well be a steamroller from their perspective and the outcome is pretty much the same!

I have these in a 'small' size on my 2012 and I'm very impressed by them.

 

[2020WB]

Dumped the stock Pirelli tires at 500 miles.They were horrible tires. Switched to Continental DWS06+ (315's on all four corners). Good traction and no more tramlining.

 

[Scatrat1]

I have these in a 'small' size on my 2012 and I'm very impressed by them.

315 would actually be wider than 305 stock size both being 35/20

 

[furious70]

315 would actually be wider than 305 stock size both being 35/20

Yes, I'm talking about 235's on my SE, probably confused everyone.

 

[Alcat]

I believe its the width more than the brand my X5M had some fat width tires and near the end of their life they seem to track all over the road and My HC with worn Perelli was doing the same I replaced with Firestone Track Hawks? Something like that.
Love the tread pattern and traction seems good..the roads are getting cold so they have been breaking loose but I like it 👌

 

[Dennis H]

Never mind the Hankook, Goodyear, Michelin, Nitto, Toyo, Bridgestone, Mickey Thompson, Hoosier, etc. brands.

No the Hellcat tires from Pirelli are a big "SCREW YOU" from Pirelli because they got bid way too low for the contract to provide them and/or a result of (latest company to own Chrysler) going too cheap on what was accepted, or something.

Just like the Pennzoil. I plan to put Coopers on.