[2ndAmend]

I think we'll be seeing a lot more stories like this:

Florida family drives into electric car problem: a replacement battery costs more than vehicle itself

A Florida family ran into a major problem after buying an electric vehicle, the replacement battery costs more than they bought the car for.

www.foxbusiness.com

 

[2ndAmend]

My wife's 94 Escort was flood totaled at 40kmi. Bought it back and fixed it super cheap, and it ran to 212kmi with no major maintenance/repair. It's life ended when it was slammed into by another vehicle and totaled (again).

 

[TropiCat]

EV's can go forth and prosper with themselves. For all the hype, the cost is insane. Too bad they did not look into that before they spent the money on that pile.

 

[OKSS]

Battery prices will eventually come down. Make take a while though.

 

[Ron b]

They are the Perfect lease vehicles 🤣

 

[Bobo]

Awe darn, wonder what's gonna happen in another decade when they all start needing replaced.

 

[Bowlerguy92]

Good luck disposing of these en mass and also, how is most electricity still produced in this country? Hint: It's not solar or wind.....

EV's are a scam, IMO. They're cool vehicles but the narrative surrounding them is completely false and they create a new problem for every one they "solve."

 

[DuvalBigCat]

EV's are a scam, IMO. They're cool vehicles but the narrative surrounding them is completely false and they create a new problem for every one they "solve."

Preach!
Like most things in life, the best solution lies somewhere in between. Plug-in Hybrids are the way to go, but of course it's not cool or flashy concept like Tesla or Rivian.

 

[2ndAmend]

Battery prices will eventually come down. Make take a while though.

The easy way to make batteries "seem" cheaper is to increase the cost of the alternatives, i.e. fuel.

 

[Mattm400]

 

[Toad 1]

So is anyone gonna talk about the fact that lithium is also a limited resource that is estimated to run out by 2040 at current rates? Ironically that is sooner than oil estimates....

This EV garbage is laughable. Hydrogen or synthetic fuels are the only practical solution. Give it another 5-10 years for people and politicians to realize how moronic this EV push is (but rest assured they will not allow "evil fossil fuels" to return)

Perhaps we will just go back to horses.

 

[Ron b]

I think once they perfect solid state batteries that will be the beginning of the end for the icm.

Still a few years out though as the tech involved to produce at scale, size and volume is just not there yet, but it will be and that's a certainty.

 

[OKSS]

The easy way to make batteries "seem" cheaper is to increase the cost of the alternatives, i.e. fuel.

Sure, but then please explain the cost of modern tv's, cell phones, computers, etc. that were crazy outrageous when they first came out. 10 years ago, a 65" TV was $1500. Now, a decent 65" TV is only $800.

Technology will become available to make the batteries cheaper. It just takes time. Prices will also come down as more people start buying EV's.

FWIW, I'm not a huge fan of EV's, but I do own one and enjoy it. I will be selling it or replacing it before the battery warranty is up. I'm not gonna be like the people who think it's somehow cool to bash cars that are faster than theirs just because they don't make any noises and it's not their cup of tea.

 

[$pir1tu$]

It'd be nice if we stopped giving Mr.Musk Taxpayer money.....

 

[Knuckles]

Good luck disposing of these en mass and also, how is most electricity still produced in this country? Hint: It's not solar or wind.....

EV's are a scam, IMO. They're cool vehicles but the narrative surrounding them is completely false and they create a new problem for every one they "solve."

i was just thinking the same thing. where’s aoc and the greeneys gonna dispose of all these dead batteries. gotta bury them somewhere.

 

[Bowlerguy92]

Preach!
Like most things in life, the best solution lies somewhere in between. Plug-in Hybrids are the way to go, but of course it's not cool or flashy concept like Tesla or Rivian.

I agree. I like the idea of a hybrid system just fine. Give me my gas motor, apply a mild hybrid system to it to juice fuel economy and power and can live with that. Killing the ICE motor in favor of all electric is stupid. There's room for them to both exist as has been evidenced well by the Ford F150 and others using this a hybrid setup.

 

[Bobo]

Sure, but then please explain the cost of modern tv's, cell phones, computers, etc. that were crazy outrageous when they first came out. 10 years ago, a 65" TV was $1500. Now, a decent 65" TV is only $800.

Technology will become available to make the batteries cheaper. It just takes time. Prices will also come down as more people start buying EV's.

FWIW, I'm not a huge fan of EV's, but I do own one and enjoy it. I will be selling it or replacing it before the battery warranty is up. I'm not gonna be like the people who think it's somehow cool to bash cars that are faster than theirs just because they don't make any noises and it's not their cup of tea.

Not bashing EVs here, they are very impressive but I don't want one although I think they're cool as hell performance wise. I just watched a youtube video of a Rivian silently pull a tractor pull sled to full pull with ease. My problem is like you just stated its great for you and you intend to get rid of it BEFORE the battery warranty is up.....that is the problem! What happens to it after you trade it in? The middle class family buying it and then realizing that they have to buy a battery that cost more than the car, like the family in Florida that just bought a used Ford EV and after 6 months found out the battery needs replaced. Car was $11,00 used, battery is $14,000 BUT no longer made so they can't buy a replacement no matter how much they'll pay. So now what? Aftermarket EV batteries and maybe they make one for your ten year old car, maybe they don't!

EVs are not cleaner, batteries are not easily disposed of or recycled, electric has to come from somewhere to charge them and as stated earlier that is not solar or wind or hydro. That needs to be nuclear to supply what will be needed, larger metro areas can't keep up with summertime air conditioning needs now let alone charge 100,000s or millions of EVs!! Then what about those that live in frigid climates? Sorry but batteries suck butt in cold weather...period!
I think this push to do away with all ICE engines is ridiculous and should be tackled by looking at cleaner fuels as mentioned earlier.
I think you build an electric vehicle with a small gas engine that runs a generator, you could run it on a small lawn mower types engine? Like trains, submarines and the like, maybe I'm wrong but I do not think we are on the correct path at this time.

Anyway LONG LIVE OUR AMERICAN MUSCLE in some form!

 

[OKSS]

Anyway LONG LIVE OUR AMERICAN MUSCLE in some form!

x 2

 

[2ndAmend]

Working in a Li-Ion battery recycling facility, must be one of those green jobs we've been hearing about. Millennials will be lining up to get those, it's the chance to save the planet they have been waiting for their entire life.

 

[2ndAmend]

Journalists Tow Camper Behind Electric Truck, End in Stunning Failure When They Only Make it 85 Miles

Wow! We can go 160 miles before charging! Or make that 150. Or quick, we need to find a charging station right now!

www.westernjournal.com