[saagz87]

I don’t know what industries you guys work in, but all 3 of the businesses our family is in have giant backorder lists, supply prices have gone off the charts, (some have come back down to earth but it takes weeks and months instead of days to get said materials) and labor prices have gone up. I don’t think there is a much greed going on at this point. Everyone is trying to find a way to push thru, and that comes with passing costs along down the line

 

[saagz87]

$20k ADMs??

ADM has nothing to do with MSRP increasing. That’s just dealers who believe demand surpasses their ability to resupply

There were ADM’s long before covid. The problem is there are people with more money than brains that believe some of these new models are special and will be worth paying over sticker for potential future values. At least that’s all I can figure. There isn’t a new FCA product on the market right now I would be willing to pay over sticker for, but obviously others are or we wouldn’t be seeing the markups from many of the dealers. But when Kia is marking up SUVs $5k over MSRP here in town and people are lined up to buy them as truck delivers them, you aren’t gonna fix that problem overnight

When hellcats came out and we were all on this very forum taking about price gouging, people complained paying $5-10k over for the first couple months to get their hands on hellcats but it sure beat the $20k markups many others were trying to get. They sold over sticker lightly used for quite some time as well. I got my charger for slightly under sticker in 2015. Search harder and more often if you want a deal, spending your time on the forum complaining about prices isn’t gonna help obviously