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Don't know how much credence to give the author, but he makes it sound like you only get to "order" what they have coming. So will we be ordering or just reserving??? See underlined

"FULL TRANSPARENCY ON PRODUCTION AND INVENTORY NUMBERS
Heading into the 2023 model year, the Dodge brand will announce how many Challengers and Chargers Brampton will build before production ends in December of 2023. As cars are allocated to dealerships around the country, that information will be shared on the Dodge website – and not just for the supercharged models. Potential customers will be able to see exactly how many examples of each car, by trim line, are available and will be available at every dealership.

Say that you are looking for a 2023 Challenger SRT® Hellcat Widebody in Go Mango. You can check your nearest Dodge dealership to see if they have one of those in stock or will be getting one soon. If they don’t have the car that you want, you can check other dealerships in the area to find the exact car that you want, including the six buzz models. Also, knowing the inventory levels of every dealership will allow customers to shop around and compare pricing, which could cut down on big dealer markups.

This program will also let prospective buyers keep an eye on the overall inventory levels of a particular model, so someone who is shopping for a particular car later in the year won’t miss out.

The 2023 model year might be the final year for the current Challenger and Charger, but the Dodge team is making sure that they go out on top, and that every enthusiast has a real chance to buy their dream muscle car before the end of the era.
Author: Patrick Rall"
https://www.dodgegarage.com/news/article/showcase/2022/08/dodge-has-big-plans-for-2023.html
 

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Don't know how much credence to give the author, but he makes it sound like you only get to "order" what they have coming. So will we be ordering or just reserving??? See underlined

"FULL TRANSPARENCY ON PRODUCTION AND INVENTORY NUMBERS
Heading into the 2023 model year, the Dodge brand will announce how many Challengers and Chargers Brampton will build before production ends in December of 2023. As cars are allocated to dealerships around the country, that information will be shared on the Dodge website – and not just for the supercharged models. Potential customers will be able to see exactly how many examples of each car, by trim line, are available and will be available at every dealership.

Say that you are looking for a 2023 Challenger SRT® Hellcat Widebody in Go Mango. You can check your nearest Dodge dealership to see if they have one of those in stock or will be getting one soon. If they don’t have the car that you want, you can check other dealerships in the area to find the exact car that you want, including the six buzz models. Also, knowing the inventory levels of every dealership will allow customers to shop around and compare pricing, which could cut down on big dealer markups.

This program will also let prospective buyers keep an eye on the overall inventory levels of a particular model, so someone who is shopping for a particular car later in the year won’t miss out.

The 2023 model year might be the final year for the current Challenger and Charger, but the Dodge team is making sure that they go out on top, and that every enthusiast has a real chance to buy their dream muscle car before the end of the era.
Author: Patrick Rall"
https://www.dodgegarage.com/news/article/showcase/2022/08/dodge-has-big-plans-for-2023.html
It doesn't say that at all. You will still be able to order a car. The dealer can use one of their allocations to take your order.
 

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Looks like they will not only show how many allocations a dealer has or will get, but Dodge will also list on their website actual dealer inventory.......

But yeah you can still order a car. Say if a dealer had an allocation for 10 Super stocks, they could choose to use them all for custom sold orders or they could say order 5 as dealer stock and leave 5 for custom orders.........

That's the way I read it.
 

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That is a very poorly worded article.

The MY23 allocations for the entire year should be published October 2022 according to the announcement made during speed week.

We were also told that the Jailbreak's are coming back for MY23 and that they will expand it to include standard Hellcats. So, we at least know that we can still build and order our own Hellcats. Basically, same process used for ordering MY22 Jailbreaks but this time we'll know all of the allocations upfront.

Also, Dodge is expected to maintain a current list of MY23 allocations. I believe this means they will be deleting sold allocations from the list so we have a clearer picture of which dealers to use for our orders.

The special addition cars will be preconfigured.
 

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So if I'm not mistaken I read somewhere that all '23's would be allocation only. Wouldnt that mean no dealer inventory?
Dodge has somehow managed to make it even more confusing.
 
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Sounds like an attempt to control dealer markup which definitely alienates future customers. Hard to fault them for that but definitely a confusing time to buy. I bought a 2021 Super Stock and ordered what I wanted and got a hell of deal. I am not interested in any electrical car from Dodge. So this car will probably be my first and last Dodge.

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This will only make mark up worse imo. Limited allocations being sold to the highest bidder.
 
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This will only make mark up worse imo. Limited allocations being sold to the highest bidder.
Totally agree. It just sounds like a good way to screw the customer and help the dealers get every last nickel out of each car.

I think there is a lot of confusion going on right now.
Personally I think Dodge confused everyone with the specially allocated versions of the 6-7 cars on the hauler at the Dodge event.

I think you will be able to order what you want from your own dealer until it ends forever.
 

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Next year at this time we're gonna get from Dodge


"we've been able to make some important changes in our lineup so you're still going to be able to get a Challenger or Charger in 2024"
 

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Looks like they will not only show how many allocations a dealer has or will get, but Dodge will also list on their website actual dealer inventory.......

But yeah you can still order a car. Say if a dealer had an allocation for 10 Super stocks, they could choose to use them all for custom sold orders or they could say order 5 as dealer stock and leave 5 for custom orders.........

That's the way I read it.
Woulda been nice to know for my JB issue earlier this year. Hey, maybe they're learning. That, and it shows kind of how dishonest dealers are, selling allocations they didn't have and literally took my money.

What happened is like buying a new iPhone. They ask you what color you want, you say gold. They go, "OK, let me go in the back and grab it." They run your card, turn off the lights and kick you out the store without giving you the phone. Then, you have to spend 4 months to get your money back. Good times.
 

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By adding go mango verbiage, it indicates that allocations are pre assigned colors as well. That’s how i read it
More than likely, when a dealer spends an allocation on a car, that "in transit" vehicle will show up on their list and can be tracked.

The slippery slope with this plan is that it unlocks dealers and allows them to more or less build sold orders for themselves. If I were a dealer, I wouldn't do any customer sold orders, at all. If I am a greedy capitalist, and I am, I'd just order a bunch of premium trimmed cars with in-demand colors and jack the ADMs and let people track when my piles of gold land in the showroom. I could spend an allocation on a customer and do an MSRP deal+dealer added incentives, but I'd make so much more money with a 20k ADM AND the dealer added incentives. So, that's what I'd do. My guess is that dealers will too.
 

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After hearing ya'lls thoughts, and weighing it with having to customize a jailbreak, maybe it's something like this:

PURELY SPECULATION - Allocations are known. Dealers can choose to order a few from their allocation for inventory. The rest they would try and leave for customer orders (because it would be stupid of Dodge to only allow dealers to option out Jailbreaks). Special Editions don't show up on allocations until they're at, or at least in shipping to, the dealership. - PURELY SPECULATION

That's what my crystal whiskey glass says....
 

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Why is there so much confusion over this? An allocation is simply the ability to order a vehicle, whether it's for your special order or their inventory is irrelevant. And yes, dealers will order for inventory and yes, those cars will have ADM. Get over it. And if you think you'd sell these cars without ADM in this situation, you're lying to yourself. Look at all of the members here who have sold their cars for more than or close to what they paid or them (or asked about whether they should sell, given the market). There's no difference between that and ADM. Now, those same people will say that it wasn't them, it was the "market" (there's that word again). Well, no one forced you to sell your car for more than you paid for it, you could have sold it for normal depreciation but you chose to take advantage of the "market". Well, the "market" runs two ways and both sides use it to their advantage of it. Anyone that says there shouldn't be ADM either doesn't understand economics or only wants it to work in their favor. Do you think those same people would walk into a dealership to buy a slow-selling car and when the dealer offers to sell for $10,000 below sticker they would say that it wouldn't be fair for them to pay less than MSRP? Some of you people really need to get off your high horse.
 
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